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2 minutes ago, Pete said:

Err. What type of idiot would actually think this? The virus from 2019 is completely different to Omicron isn't it as that's what virus do to survive.  
 

The type that thinks 'natural immunity' through catching a potentially deadly disease is actually superior to a proven, safe vaccine.

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2 minutes ago, Mudface said:

The type that thinks 'natural immunity' through catching a potentially deadly disease is actually superior to a proven, safe vaccine.

World is full of fucking thick twats. Really is

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4 minutes ago, Pete said:

World is full of fucking thick twats. Really is

I'll try and find it later, but there was a really good article in the Guardian a couple of months ago about how the Wellness industry had been co-opted by far right/ Libertarian, QAnon types. That's where a lot of this bollocks has come from.

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22 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I'll try and find it later, but there was a really good article in the Guardian a couple of months ago about how the Wellness industry had been co-opted by far right/ Libertarian, QAnon types. That's where a lot of this bollocks has come from.

This is the one I was thinking of- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/11/injecting-poison-will-never-make-you-healthy-how-the-wellness-industry-turned-its-back-on-covid-science

 

There's also this-

 

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/17/eva-wiseman-conspirituality-the-dark-side-of-wellness-how-it-all-got-so-toxic

 

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On 16/12/2021 at 11:29, Nelly-Torres said:

I've decided to swerve some beers with mates on Saturday. Probably be alright but, given how infectious it appears, I don't want to risk having to isolate over Christmas as I've got things on Christmas Day and Boxing Day that I'd prefer to do. I'm following Whitty's prioritising advice. 

One of my mates who went for the beers has just tested positive. Obviously, it's that widespread that he could've got it anywhere. But, I've socialised with my brother since (he went out too) so am just going to do a test to be safe. 

 

My mate's missus has got it too. She feels a bit fatigued but fine apart from that. My mate hasn't said what symptoms he's got but has said he's got it worse than her and is "completely wrecked" and "fucked." 

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The US Army has announced a potential breakthrough in the fight against the virus: a new vaccine, still in trial, that may offer protection from all current variants.

The shot is currently named Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle Covid-19 vaccine, or SpFN. It has been developed by scientists at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR), who are seeking to provide protection against as many coronaviruses variants as possible.

 

 

According to Defense One, which first reported the vaccine’s development, the vaccine uses entirely different technology to the Covid-19 shots currently in use around the world. Instead of the mRNA method or viral vectorvaccines, SpFN will use a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces, each containing a different coronavirus spike protein.

According to Mr Modjarrad, “The repetitive and ordered display of the coronavirus spike protein on a multi-faced nanoparticle may stimulate immunity in such a way as to translate into significantly broader protection.”

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23 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The US Army has announced a potential breakthrough in the fight against the virus: a new vaccine, still in trial, that may offer protection from all current variants.

The shot is currently named Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle Covid-19 vaccine, or SpFN. It has been developed by scientists at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR), who are seeking to provide protection against as many coronaviruses variants as possible.

 

 

According to Defense One, which first reported the vaccine’s development, the vaccine uses entirely different technology to the Covid-19 shots currently in use around the world. Instead of the mRNA method or viral vectorvaccines, SpFN will use a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces, each containing a different coronavirus spike protein.

According to Mr Modjarrad, “The repetitive and ordered display of the coronavirus spike protein on a multi-faced nanoparticle may stimulate immunity in such a way as to translate into significantly broader protection.”

Yeah cos they fucking invented it!

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Biden, Nov 7th 2020 :

 

It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again. Listen to each other again. And to make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies. They are not our enemies. They are Americans. They’re Americans.

 

Let this grim era of demonisation in America begin to end – here and now.

 

Biden, Dec 16th 2021 :

 

"We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated. For themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm."

 

I wonder who wrote the second quote for him? Pfizer? Merck? Both? I suppose that when you're a fraudulent idiot a bit of division is needed though.

 

CNN said :

 

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He'd determined ahead of time that his message would be muddled if he answered any questions afterward, so he sat uncharacteristically silent as reporters peppered him on their way out.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/18/politics/white-house-omicron-warning-joe-biden/index.html

 

Good tactic Uncle Joe. Ensures that you have no chance of facing questions like :

 

"Can you tell us what type of winter you're expecting for unvaccinated that have previously had a covid infection and recovered?"

 

"You previously used the Defense Production Act to help with vaccine supply. Couldn't you use the same act right now to increase the supply of early treatments like Paxlovid to help the unvaccinated and the vaccinated through the winter instead of acting like a fucking clown?"

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2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

The US Army has announced a potential breakthrough in the fight against the virus: a new vaccine, still in trial, that may offer protection from all current variants.

The shot is currently named Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle Covid-19 vaccine, or SpFN. It has been developed by scientists at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR), who are seeking to provide protection against as many coronaviruses variants as possible.

 

 

According to Defense One, which first reported the vaccine’s development, the vaccine uses entirely different technology to the Covid-19 shots currently in use around the world. Instead of the mRNA method or viral vectorvaccines, SpFN will use a soccer ball-shaped protein with 24 faces, each containing a different coronavirus spike protein.

According to Mr Modjarrad, “The repetitive and ordered display of the coronavirus spike protein on a multi-faced nanoparticle may stimulate immunity in such a way as to translate into significantly broader protection.”

Spiffing!

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7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Biden, Nov 7th 2020 :

 

It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again. Listen to each other again. And to make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as our enemies. They are not our enemies. They are Americans. They’re Americans.

 

Let this grim era of demonisation in America begin to end – here and now.

 

Biden, Dec 16th 2021 :

 

"We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated. For themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm."

 

I wonder who wrote the second quote for him? Pfizer? Merck? Both? I suppose that when you're a fraudulent idiot a bit of division is needed though.

 

CNN said :

 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/18/politics/white-house-omicron-warning-joe-biden/index.html

 

Good tactic Uncle Joe. Ensures that you have no chance of facing questions like :

 

"Can you tell us what type of winter you're expecting for unvaccinated that have previously had a covid infection and recovered?"

 

"You previously used the Defense Production Act to help with vaccine supply. Couldn't you use the same act right now to increase the supply of early treatments like Paxlovid to help the unvaccinated and the vaccinated through the winter instead of acting like a fucking clown?"

Without getting too far into the weeds the answer to the last sentence is no - twice.

On the 16th he couldn't have said that as it was not yet approved, in addition to the fact that Pfizer did not take any gubmint money to develop their products. They have a quarter million doses available right now.

As of yesterday doctors are prescribing it. 

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5 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Without getting too far into the weeds the answer to the last sentence is no - twice.

On the 16th he couldn't have said that as it was not yet approved, in addition to the fact that Pfizer did not take any gubmint money to develop their products. They have a quarter million doses available right now.

As of yesterday doctors are prescribing it. 

 

Good to know doctors are already prescribing it if it works as well as they say.

 

As for the Defense Production Act, this is from the WH yesterday so it looks like they can help with it :

 

Today’s action is a testament to the power of science and the result of American innovation and ingenuity. As Pfizer works to produce these treatments as quickly as possible, we will work closely with them and provide any resource needed, including using the Defense Production Act if warranted.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/22/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-the-fda-emergency-authorization-of-the-pfizer-covid-19-antiviral-treatment/

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1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Without getting too far into the weeds the answer to the last sentence is no - twice.

On the 16th he couldn't have said that as it was not yet approved, in addition to the fact that Pfizer did not take any gubmint money to develop their products. They have a quarter million doses available right now.

As of yesterday doctors are prescribing it. 

They did get a 2 billion dollar initial order from the government, which is a form of aid (creating guaranteed market). And their German partner did take some German money (although I don't remember in which phase exactly, may have been the production).  

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15 minutes ago, SasaS said:

They did get a 2 billion dollar initial order from the government, which is a form of aid (creating guaranteed market). And their German partner did take some German money (although I don't remember in which phase exactly, may have been the production).  

No idea about any German partner.

 

From a manufacturing standpoint an unfilled order is not an asset. The market was created out of need.

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