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35 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

He hardly ever goes out as well. There is me and the Mrs and her two kids in two separate houses with their families. Gone from no cases in any house to 2/3 in 24 hours.

How fast this thing is spreading is terrifying. As has been mentioned already, they've just thrown open the doors to herd immunity.

 

My wife has been flapping about it since the beginning and ironically she's the one who caught it before me!

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9 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Interesting study for anyone else who finds this stuff worthwhile reading. It's from the CDC so might make it a bit difficult for the usual suspects to say 'BuT cAnT TrUst ThAt bEst LEaVe tO eXperTS' elbow lickers

 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/10/21-1427_article

 

 

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So you think we shouldn’t listen to experts then?

 

And we should focus on studies involving less than 50 people?

 

What a bizarre post. 

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10 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Interesting study for anyone else who finds this stuff worthwhile reading. It's from the CDC so might make it a bit difficult for the usual suspects to say 'BuT cAnT TrUst ThAt bEst LEaVe tO eXperTS' elbow lickers

 

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/10/21-1427_article

 

 

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Congrats on being skeptical. Very brave.

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What the fuck has happened to this place?

 

You post something that may not be from a valid source and get rightly questioned, fair enough. 

 

Post something from actual experts, like the CDC, and get questioned about trusting experts?

 

This thread is a discussion thread about all things Coronavirus related; it shouldn't matter whether it's about Dolly from Surrey with Long Covid, infected miners or people's own personal stories about Covid. It's all part of the same topic.

 

Shouldn't matter if its a small study about 50 people big or a large study 20k big, or even about driving golf balls up your arse, as long as its covid related its fair game. So give your head a shake and stop being an absolute fucking bet wetter. 

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10 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

What the fuck has happened to this place?

 

You post something that may not be from a valid source and get rightly questioned, fair enough. 

 

Post something from actual experts, like the CDC, and get questioned about trusting experts?

 

This thread is a discussion thread about all things Coronavirus related; it shouldn't matter whether it's about Dolly from Surrey with Long Covid, infected miners or people's own personal stories about Covid. It's all part of the same topic.

 

Shouldn't matter if its a small study about 50 people big or a large study 20k big, or even about driving golf balls up your arse, as long as its covid related its fair game. So give your head a shake and stop being an absolute fucking bet wetter. 


You opened the discussion by calling unnamed posters elbow lickers, you mad cunt.

 

What is that study of 44 people living down a mine supposed to suggest exactly? What is the argument?

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15 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

What the fuck has happened to this place?

 

You post something that may not be from a valid source and get rightly questioned, fair enough. 

 

Post something from actual experts, like the CDC, and get questioned about trusting experts?

 

This thread is a discussion thread about all things Coronavirus related; it shouldn't matter whether it's about Dolly from Surrey with Long Covid, infected miners or people's own personal stories about Covid. It's all part of the same topic.

 

Shouldn't matter if its a small study about 50 people big or a large study 20k big, or even about driving golf balls up your arse, as long as its covid related its fair game. So give your head a shake and stop being an absolute fucking bet wetter. 

I'm not exactly sure what you're driving at here. There appears to be another variant which can infect doubly vaccinated people, but it didn't cause them serious illness.

 



Conclusions
We describe a COVID-19 Gamma variant cluster with a high attack rate even in fully vaccinated persons. The Gamma variant is the predominant variant in French Guiana which, as of July 2021, caused a third epidemic wave, threatening to overwhelm the hospital capacity (11). Such a low vaccine efficiency against infection by the Gamma variant was not expected because in vitro studies have shown a similar reduction of neutralization for Beta or Gamma variants by BNT162b2-elicited antibodies (5) and a conserved CD4+ T-cell response against spike proteins from the Beta variant (6). Of the 10,262 COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections identified in the United States during January–April 2021, for which 555 had available sequencing, only 28 were caused by the Gamma variant (12). Furthermore, real-world effectiveness against any infection by a Beta variant, which shares a similar E484K mutation on the gene coding for the spike protein, was estimated at 75.0% (9). Given the surprisingly high attack rate, we hypothesized potential dysfunctions of conservation or administration of vaccines, but the absence of traceable cold-chain interruption and the use of different batches seemed to refute this hypothesis. The relative isolation of the mining site and careful contact tracing suggested limited numbers of viral introductions inside this community. The low Ct of positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2 despite prior vaccination suggested that a complete vaccination scheme with BNT162b2 vaccine was not sufficient to prevent symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection and its transmission in this context of communal life without masks. The working conditions of some miners (heat, humidity, aerosol) and the sharing of machine cabs for others could also have contributed to transmission. The absence of severe COVID-19 in a high-risk population (13) suggests but does not prove protection against severe disease, as reported for the Beta variant in another context (14).

In conclusion, we describe a VOC Gamma COVID-19 outbreak with a strikingly high attack rate among persons fully vaccinated with BNT162b2 vaccine. Our observation suggested that BNT162b2 protected from severe COVID-19. However, this single unexpected outbreak in a small and isolated vaccinated population requires further real-life studies on BNT162b2 vaccine effectiveness against the VOC Gamma. Masking and social distancing —even among those fully vaccinated— may be necessary among persons with frequent exposure in Gamma variant–endemic zones.

 

It's interesting, but I don't get what point you're trying to make?

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Zonko is desperate to post alternative stuff about the vaccines being dangerous or not working very well, which he's allowed to do. But then, dont post some Doctor shilling vitamins' opinion, some random guy's blog or some small study about a remote variant, possibly infecting vaccinated people and act like you found the holy grail of information that everyone else just doesn't understand because they're big pharma shills, or something.

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In the meantime, the cunts who advised against getting vaccinated for their own political reasons and encouraged endless conspiracy theories have turned tail. Presumably they're now worried about their gaslighted voter base being decimated.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/kay-ivey-republican-blame-unvaccinated-covid-cases

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3 minutes ago, Mudface said:

In the meantime, the cunts who advised against getting vaccinated for their own political reasons and encouraged endless conspiracy theories have turned tail. Presumably they're now worried about their gaslighted voter base being decimated.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/kay-ivey-republican-blame-unvaccinated-covid-cases

Like Tory voters though, if you vote for people who are so brazenly and obviously on the wrong side of every issue, you deserve your lumps.

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4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Like Tory voters though, if you vote for people who are so brazenly and obviously on the wrong side of every issue, you deserve your lumps.

They'll 'Gawd bless ya' and cap doff even as they're being bummed to death by the likes of Rees-Mogg or McConnell. Just as long as it fucks the libs or the enemies within that tried to thwart our brave Brexit.

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