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2 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I can sell you 10 gallons of it for £99.99. 20% discount if you sign up to the 'Suckers' tier of my Patreon and make 10 Facebook posts about it in the first 2 weeks.

 

Snake Oil was shown to actually have positive effects, it was only the counterfeit stuff that people hawked to suckers that didn't.

 

Only found that out the other week.

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15 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I can sell you 10 gallons of it for £99.99. 20% discount if you sign up to the 'Suckers' tier of my Patreon and make 10 Facebook posts about it in the first 2 weeks.

Okay but are you certain if gets rid of Gonorrhea?

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13 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I honestly don't see the way out of this. 

 

You catch it, it mutates into something more deadly, you catch it again, it mutates again, etc. 

 

It needs eradication, we can't live like this.

We are never coming out of it, and more to the point, people are too scared to.

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1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yep, sounds like a right mess. It could be that it's crap for treating this but even if it wasn't I'm not sure if we'd find out if there's more cash to be made via drugs currently being developed.

You think something that would have to be taken by the entire world’s population, everyday, for ever, won’t make more money than a vaccine?  All the time meaning the virus is still swilling around and able to take hold the minute we stop taking it?  

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3 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

We are never coming out of it, and more to the point, people are too scared to.

Well we are, our glorious leader has decided it's a gamble worth taking. 

 

Yes there are a lot of scared people, we have a tory government, why wouldn't the weak and vulnerable be scared. Also they keep putting out very misleading information on over 50s, I mean there's a big difference between the risks of someone in their 50s and someone in their 90s. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Elite said:

Without derailing the thread, do they sell that stuff anywhere in the UK? Looks just what I need.

Reminds me of the advert in one of the Monty Python books signing up for the ancient Welsh martial art of Llap Goch , with the signature place underneath

 

- I am over 4 years of age

- I have an extra Y chromosome

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8 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Reminds me of the advert in one of the Monty Python books signing up for the ancient Welsh martial art of Llap Goch , with the signature place underneath

 

- I am over 4 years of age

- I have an extra Y chromosome

It was the Big Red Bok, wasn't it? Loved that-

 

Monty Python: Llap Goch

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24 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Covid just underlines the importance of socialism.  

All these separate states with their nationalism and closed borders just makes the idea of controlling this impossible. 

It takes something like this to see it clearly.  

How are closed borders, socialism and nationalism mutually exclusive now?

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What a mess.

 

I wish the government would release their figures based on a split of vaccinated or not. 

 

If those who aren’t t vaccinated are making up the majority of deaths / hospitalisations now, I’m very sorry, that’s on them. 
 

Also, far more should be made of the NHS App. The Foo Fighters played a gig to a full Madison Square Garden a few weeks back but you had to prove vaccination before entry. Why are we not doing this? “We advise you wear a mask”, “We advise caution”, “We advise checks”… people are fucking idiots. Offer them an inch and they take a mile. I’m 100% of the opinion people / business should be told to do this 

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This ongoing thread is interesting for anyone that I'd data minded, pulling in sources from other places.. Have to admire people who spend so much effort doing this. 

 

TL:DR - people should be very careful in the 2 weeks post either dose of vaccination. Looks like the immune system takes a dip.

 

 

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I looked at Malta, which is where UK is rushing to be with full vaccination, currently at almost 71 percent of population, which should be somewhere around 85 percent of adults.

 

They are running at 230 cases now, which is the UK equivalent of 30-35k, but their breakdown is interesting, 195 of 222 from yesterday under 39 years of age, hospitalization rate is 1 percent, and there is only one person in the ICU, out of some 1440 current active cases. No deaths reported last 7 days.

 

So, collective immunity with vaccination doesn't really work, or at least young people have so many and so prolonged contacts even in the summer (outdoors) that the virus will find them in large numbers and spread, either through the youth population, or to their vaccinated and not vaccinated parents, but the effects on the general population and healthcare system would be similar to the flu season. And if you over 40 or 50, vaccination plus a little bit of caution and conservative behaviour stops the spread.

 

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https://deputyprimeminister.gov.mt/en/health-promotion/covid-19/Pages/covid-19-infographics.aspx

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

You think something that would have to be taken by the entire world’s population, everyday, for ever, won’t make more money than a vaccine?  All the time meaning the virus is still swilling around and able to take hold the minute we stop taking it?  

 

I don't even have a clue what you're going on about. I'm not trying to shill it either because I barely even know what it is. Anyway this study says two doses, which is slightly less than "everyday, forever" :

 

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Two-doses of oral ivermectin (300 μg/kg given 72 hours apart) as chemoprophylaxis among HCWs reduces the risk of COVID-19 infection by 83% in the following month. Safe, effective, and low-cost chemoprophylaxis have relevance in the containment of pandemic alongside vaccine.

 

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-208785/v1

 

edit : it's here too in a more complete form I think and with a different result (73% instead of 83% reduction in risk) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/

 

and : https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247163

 

 

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Boris Johnson’s plan to lift virtually all of England’s pandemic restrictions on Monday is a threat to the world and provides fertile ground for the emergence of vaccine-resistant variants, international experts say.

At an emergency summit on Friday government advisers in New Zealand, Israel and Italy sounded alarm bells about Downing Street’s policy, while more than 1,200 scientists backed a letter to the Lancet journal warning that the strategy could allow vaccine-resistant variants to develop.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I don't even have a clue what you're going on about. I'm not trying to shill it either because I barely even know what it is. Anyway this study says two doses, which is slightly less than "everyday, forever" :

 

 

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-208785/v1

 

edit : it's here too in a more complete form I think and with a different result (73% instead of 83% reduction in risk) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33592050/

 

and : https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247163

 

 

It has a half life of hours.  It doesn’t create an immune response so when it’s worn off you need more. Think of it like an asprin.  

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16 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Boris Johnson’s plan to lift virtually all of England’s pandemic restrictions on Monday is a threat to the world and provides fertile ground for the emergence of vaccine-resistant variants, international experts say.

At an emergency summit on Friday government advisers in New Zealand, Israel and Italy sounded alarm bells about Downing Street’s policy, while more than 1,200 scientists backed a letter to the Lancet journal warning that the strategy could allow vaccine-resistant variants to develop.

 

 

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The Tories are in deep shit here. 

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