Coronavirus

[Harry's Lad]

Are these cunts just cynically corrupt when it comes to their handling of this whole thing?, are they criminally negligent?, or is it a combination of both?.

 

It could be any of them because it's all so blatant.

 

You look at the tin pot dictatorships in some South American or African countries for example and think to yourself, how the fuck are they getting away with that? and then you realise that it's actually happening right here, right now.

 

Is it being too naive to think that there's got to be a time when they're rounded up and prosecuted for their crimes, because that's exactly what they are.

I've a feeling it is, but somethings got to give.

 

When all this is over, if not before, the people have to do something  to show this is unacceptable and they have to be made accountable.

 

They deserve to be politically and financially ruined.

It's the moral duty of the people to make it so.

 

Rant over.

[johnsusername]

7 hours ago, Section_31 said:

So had to cancel going back to Northern Ireland for Christmas, Mrs is in tears as she hasn't seen her parents since this time last year. Thanks Tory voters, I hope you lose all your property portfolio and your children are unable to inherit your wealth, forcing them to turn to a life of crime and hard drugs. 

 

 

What happened mate?? I thought you were going?

 

We had to miss our flight tonight - Mrs got a covid test (the proper one) Sunday lunchtime and we still haven't had the fucking result. We rang up before and they said she's registered but they can't tell you the result - fucking hell. We both got the quick test on Saturday and both came back negative but her temperature kept going up. 

 

So, pulled a few strings with a mate who works for easyJet to change the flights to Christmas Eve (cost a few quid more but not loads thankfully). Quite lucky there.

 

The Mrs is a teacher - worked right through both lockdowns, Tier 3, worked at the hub school, looked after 30 kids every day (loads of tales of kids being sent in sick - parents plying them with Calpol so their temperature comes down - parents getting Covid tests and sending their kids into school). And as soon as they break up for Christmas she's sick with a temperature.

 

My two kids (3 and 7) have already been sent over with the in laws - we were both still in work and couldn't take the extra time off.

 

I know it seems a bit rich since there are people who have lost family, or have family in hospital, but I'm going to be gutted if I miss Christmas with my kids. (Not that I think they'll care like!) 

 

We wouldn't have sent them over, or even booked flights, but all the talk was Christmas would be ok. Christmas won't be cancelled no siree. Then they pulled the fucking rug last minute - they should have made this decision fucking weeks ago so people could make alternative plans.

 

We won't be seeing anyone over 65, or with health conditions, and everything is fucking closed anyway so we wouldn't be going anywhere.

 

Shame there's a sea in the way (now if only someone would build that bridge...)

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Harry's Lad said:

Are these cunts just cynically corrupt when it comes to their handling of this whole thing?, are they criminally negligent?, or is it a combination of both?.

 

It could be any of them because it's all so blatant.

 

You look at the tin pot dictatorships in some South American or African countries for example and think to yourself, how the fuck are they getting away with that? and then you realise that it's actually happening right here, right now.

 

Is it being too naive to think that there's got to be a time when they're rounded up and prosecuted for their crimes, because that's exactly what they are.

I've a feeling it is, but somethings got to give.

 

When all this is over, if not before, the people have to do something  to show this is unacceptable and they have to be made accountable.

 

They deserve to be politically and financially ruined.

It's the moral duty of the people to make it so.

 

Rant over.

You talk of them being prosecuted, it's over to Italy,

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/relatives-of-italian-covid-victims-to-file-lawsuit-against-leading-politicians?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

Unfortunately i dont think anything will come of it and youd be pissing in the wind trying to hold a politician to account in this country.

[Harry's Lad]

19 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You talk of them being prosecuted, it's over to Italy,

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/relatives-of-italian-covid-victims-to-file-lawsuit-against-leading-politicians?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

 

Unfortunately i dont think anything will come of it and youd be pissing in the wind trying to hold a politician to account in this country.

I know.

Just angry and venting, but I'm convinced there's corruption in there and they're far to cocky.

Starmer was the DPP and I'd be very surprised if he isn't using that forensic mind of his to find something to bring them down with.

I live in hope.

[Champ]

10 hours ago, Tony Moanero said:

From 11pm last night, my dad started to deteriorate. His heart rate is going haywire, he has a blood clot on his lung and has sepsis. Waiting for the nurse to call my mum this afternoon, and the consultant this evening.

So sorry to read this, Tony. Look after yourself mister 

[Tony Moanero]

11 minutes ago, Champ said:

So sorry to read this, Tony. Look after yourself mister 

Thank you.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

2 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Thank you.

Long night, bless you and yours, think positive, drink neat Jameson's from a heavy glass, watch Godfather on iPlayer, it'll almost be morning. 

[Gnasher]

46 minutes ago, Harry's Lad said:

I know.

Just angry and venting, but I'm convinced there's corruption in there and they're far to cocky.

Starmer was the DPP and I'd be very surprised if he isn't using that forensic mind of his to find something to bring them down with.

I live in hope.

Yeah I know, it's been a tough year and they certainly havnt helped. 

[skend04]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/pandemic-sex-parties-twenties-b1777493.html

 

I'm looking forward to all the sex!

[suzy]

19 hours ago, Tony Moanero said:

From 11pm last night, my dad started to deteriorate. His heart rate is going haywire, he has a blood clot on his lung and has sepsis. Waiting for the nurse to call my mum this afternoon, and the consultant this evening.

So sorry to read this Tony. Hope he pulls through.

[Duff Man]

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Based on your profile, there are between 27,132,105 and 38,844,493 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across the UK.

 

Given a vaccination rate of 1,000,000 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your vaccine between 01/07/2021 and 21/09/2021.

Awesome.

[Section_31]

23 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Awesome.

Heh I had something similar.

 

If anyone thinks this shambles won't fuck up the rollout I've got magic beans for sale. I can already hear the Serco staff's shouts of "what do they mean keep it in the fridge?"

[Duff Man]

11 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Hey I had something similar.

 

If anyone thinks this shambles won't fuck up the rollout I've got magic beans for sale. I can already hear the Capita staff's shouts of "what do they mean by keep it in the fridge?"

Definitely. And there's already chatter of shipments being delayed due to the issues at the ports, too. Imagine seriously considering no-deal in a situation like this. Just straight up psychopaths.

[Special K]

Finally finished my isolation yesterday. I'm still fucking knackered and can't smell anything but I'm over the worst of it.

 

Tony, I hope your dad gets better. Good thoughts going your way.

[littletedwest]

8 minutes ago, Special K said:

Finally finished my isolation yesterday. I'm still fucking knackered and can't smell anything but I'm over the worst of it.

 

Tony, I hope your dad gets better. Good thoughts going your way.

How long you been ill for mate?

I'm out on Christmas day I'm still really tired but otherwise OK. Symptoms have been relatively mild but they've hung on for a while. 

[Bjornebye]

@Tony Moanerohope all’s ok mate 

[Sugar Ape]

1 hour ago, Duff Man said:

Awesome.

I’m a bit sooner but I reckon there’s no way I get it before the summer. 
 

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Based on your profile, there are between 12,305,865 and 18,074,125 people in front of you in the queue for a COVID vaccine across the UK. 

 

Given a vaccination rate of 1,000,000 a week and an uptake of 70.6%, you should expect to receive your vaccine between 19/03/2021 and 29/04/2021.

 

[John102]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349

 

Ex-PM Tony Blair is urging the government to give as many people as possible an initial dose of a Covid vaccine - rather than preserving stocks so there is enough for second jabs.

The Pfizer-Biontech and Oxford University-Astrazeneca vaccines require two doses to be fully effective.

Mr Blair says his idea would speed up the vaccine programme so the country could come out of lockdown sooner.

In the Independent, he said the roll-out must be "radically accelerated".

The UK has pre-ordered 40 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 100 million of the Oxford University Astrazeneca vaccines.

More than 500,000 people in the UK have now been given their first dose of the vaccine.

The two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are administered around 21 days apart.

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• 'Common sense' to move toward digital IDs - Blair

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Blair said that although "you really need the two doses… the first dose gives you substantial immunity".

He argued there was a "strong case for not holding back the second doses of the vaccine" and instead using those batches to give a greater number of people the first dose.

His proposal was backed up by Professor David Salisbury, the man who was in charge of immunisation at the Department of Health until 2013.

He told Today the numbers are "straightforward".

"You give one dose you get 91% [protection] you give two doses and you get 95% - you are only gaining 4% for giving the second dose," he said.

"With current circumstances, I would strongly urge you to use as many first doses as you possibly can for risk groups and only after you have done all of that come back with second doses."

However, he acknowledged this would be harder to do with the Oxford University vaccine where the efficacy of two doses is 60%.

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image captionMargaret Keenan became the first person in the UK to receive the Pfizer/BioNtech Covid-19 vaccine at University Hospital, Coventry

Mr Blair's suggestion was part of a seven-point plan he has drawn up, which also includes a plea to the government to start preparing "health passports".

The former Labour prime minister, who was in power between 1997 and 2007, predicted that in six months, countries would only allow travellers to visit if they could give proof of their disease status.

He also said it was important to "have the best data systems in the world available to us".

"Collecting this data in one place, with one patient record, is going to be absolutely vital - testing, vaccinations, every single thing to do with the development of this disease," he added.

"You need to record every single piece of data you can lay your hands on because we will be adjusting our vaccination programme as we go - we may even have to adjust the vaccine itself."

Mr Blair also said that while it is important to prioritise the vulnerable and health care staff, this should not delay vaccinating those who were more likely to spread the disease, such as students.

 

Tony Blair's theory about making vaccines go further is grabbing the headlines but the former prime minister's thoughts on health passports could prove even more controversial.

He's confident that within six months no country in the world will allow travellers in without proof of their disease status - and wants the UK government to get ahead of the curve, building a vast database of patient records, tests and vaccinations.

It would seem inevitable that any health passport would end up being used not just for foreign travel but at home, with restaurants, shops and even employers demanding to know about an individual's virus status.

The national ID card that Tony Blair's government proposed in the teeth of fierce opposition would finally become a reality.

But civil liberties and data rights campaigners have already raised concerns about issues such as the data collected by the NHS Covid-19 contact tracing app, and about the role in building a virus dashboard the government has given to the controversial American firm Palantir.

They can be expected to mount a vigorous fight against any attempt to create a national "Covid passport" - and many MPs across the political spectrum will share their unease.

But not everyone will reject the idea out of hand. Some whose freedoms to leave their house or to welcome family at Christmas have been curtailed may think that giving away some of their data is a price worth paying for a return to normality.

 

 

Maybe the inevitable logistical fuck ups wont be so bad?

 

Also - Is Tony's Dad sick? Hopefully he is on the mend by the time the Queen's speech kicks off.

[Davelfc]

So Blair is a vaccine expert now? If the experts say two doses are needed then you don't reduce it to one. He's the kind of idiot that would suggest cutting parachutes in half if there was a shortage.

[Duff Man]

Just now, Sugar Ape said:

I’m a bit sooner but I reckon there’s no way I get it before the summer.

1m a week? Sure, Jan.

[Rico1304]

Oops. 
 

 

[Tony Moanero]

41 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

@Tony Moanerohope all’s ok mate 

Yesterday, my dad had a cardiac arrest.

They managed to resuscitate him but his heart is still very erratic. They dispersed the blood clot on his lung. He is critical but relatively stable.

[Harry's Lad]

1 minute ago, Tony Moanero said:

Yesterday, my dad had a cardiac arrest. They managed to resuscitate him but his heart is still very erratic. They dispersed the blood clot on his lung. He is critical but relatively stable.

My best hopes and wishes for the best possible outcome.

[dirk grout]

34 minutes ago, Jedd Drudge said:

So Blair is a vaccine expert now? If the experts say two doses are needed then you don't reduce it to one. He's the kind of idiot that would suggest cutting parachutes in half if there was a shortage.

Regardless of ones opinion of Tony Blair, (for the record I'm not his biggest fan), it is completely foolish to refer to the man as an idiot.

[dirk grout]

3 minutes ago, Tony Moanero said:

Yesterday, my dad had a cardiac arrest. They managed to resuscitate him but his heart is still very erratic. They dispersed the blood clot on his lung. He is critical but relatively stable.

Best of luck mate, hope he pulls through.