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3 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

Yes Steve, because selling somebody something for a price significantly less than the price they had already committed to pay, and then giving them more of the same product for free (and paying the postage fees) really constitutes ripping somebody off, doesn't it?

 

Here is a picture of a bellend

 

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Pointy elbows and overly hairy arms. Like a hobbit

Would not

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4 hours ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

I'm in no why having a go here but why would a doctors receptionist be considered a priority ? If the set up is like it is in my doctors, screen, and the receptionist is wearing a mask, they're no more at risk than a till operator in a supermarket.

my guess mick it is as much as about protecting other people. if a receptionist was to have it and be asymptomatic, by the nature of their job they are in contact with firstly plenty of people, but i think most significantly, people who are not of the best of health. i do also think the "have you had it" is probably also helpful. 

2 hours ago, M_B said:

Interesting bit from (yeah I know) Fox News

 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-on-chinas-global-fraud-coronavirus

 

The latest evidence comes from samples collected during Red Cross blood drives last year and analyzed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in a study published on Monday.

 

Researchers tested 39 blood samples from California, Washington and Oregon that were collected between Dec. 13 and Dec. 16, 2019. At the time, no one in the United States had heard of COVID-19. The Chinese government didn't even acknowledge its existence until Dec. 31. And yet, every one of those samples came back positive for coronavirus antibodies. Keep in mind that antibodies don't develop for at least a week after exposure to the virus.

 

That means the human coronavirus was being transmitted throughout the American population far earlier, possibly months earlier, than we were told. We don't know yet how it happened, but we know for certain that it did.

The CDC has found dozens more positive samples from blood tests taken beginning at the end of December, and they found them in many other parts of the country -- in Michigan, Iowa, and Massachusetts.

interesting - we had a bit of a discussion on here the other day about the possibility of the virus being active earlier than we even knew it existed. i think it is really likely. 

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9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

my guess mick it is as much as about protecting other people. if a receptionist was to have it and be asymptomatic, by the nature of their job they are in contact with firstly plenty of people, but i think most significantly, people who are not of the best of health. i do also think the "have you had it" is probably also helpful. 

interesting - we had a bit of a discussion on here the other day about the possibility of the virus being active earlier than we even knew it existed. i think it is really likely. 

I doubt if the vaccine will stop it from spreading, it would only help prevent the ill effects. I would imagine a person can still be infectious if they have it in their system, ie asymptomatic. 

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1 minute ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

I doubt if the vaccine will stop it from spreading, it would only help prevent the ill effects. I would imagine a person can still be infectious if they have it in their system, ie asymptomatic. 

i think it helps keep the viral load low. at least that was something i read recently. it was in a broader argument about how we get out of this, it also mentioned a lot about rapid tests that while are not very sensitive, they generally still pick up people with a large viral load, who are probably the ones who spread it most. 

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21 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Wales you say?  Mmm. 

Why the fuck do pubs have to close at 6pm in a country with the highest ever number? It's so fucking unfair.

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1 hour ago, Spy Bee said:

The lowest number of cases on a Thursday since 9th October.

 

31 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Except in Wales, where it's the highest number of cases on a Thursday ever.

22 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Wales you say?  Mmm. 

 

19 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Highest number of patients in hospital with it ever too, about 20% more than the peak in the first wave.

Walked straight into that one, you toilet-brush.

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6 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

Yes Steve, because selling somebody something for a price significantly less than the price they had already committed to pay, and then giving them more of the same product for free (and paying the postage fees) really constitutes ripping somebody off, doesn't it?

 

Here is a picture of a bellend

 

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Christmas tree decorations are a bit shit.

 

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Jesus fucking Christ. These cunts are a shambles. "We've ordered 40m doses, but we'll only get 800k". Useless cunts. 

 

NHS staff no longer at front of queue for Covid vaccine after rethink

Change to priority list for next few weeks likely to worry and disappoint health workers

 
Published:18:02 Thu 3 December 2020
 Follow Denis Campbell
 

NHS staff will no longer be among the first people to be vaccinated against Covid-19 after a rethink about who should be given priority.

Hospitals will instead begin by immunising care home staff, and inpatients and outpatients aged over 80. The change is likely to disappoint and worry health service staff, some of whom had already booked appointments to get immunised.

Frontline personnel were due to have the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine when the NHS starts rolling it out, probably next Tuesday, after the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency approved it on Wednesday.

Separately, NHS bosses said the 800,000 doses that comprise the UK’s first consignment from Pfizer’s manufacturing plant in Belgium may be “the only batch we receive for some time”, raising questions about how soon further supplies will arrive.

NHS Providers, which represents health service trusts in England, on Thursday confirmed health service staff had been moved back in the queue for who gets immunised in the next few weeks. It follows new UK-wide guidance on priority groups issued by the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation and the uncertainty over when the rest of the 5m-strong initial batch of doses that ministers ordered will reach the UK.

The JCVI reiterated its previous stance that care home residents and staff and over-80s must be the first groups of people to have the Pfizer/BioNTech jab, with health workers next in line.

Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, detailed the new order in a series of tweets. He said: “JCVI prioritisation clear. Care home residents and their carers. Then over-80s and frontline health/care workers.

“Yesterday’s combination of JCVI prioritisation/MHRA authorisation conditions [on the vaccine’s licence] therefore changes previous, unofficial, assumption [that] hospitals would concentrate initially on staff.” Hospitals across England had expected to immunise their staff first and begin planning to do that from next week.

The question of whether care home residents and staff on the one hand or NHS personnel on the other should be prioritised for the first doses caused tension on Wednesday behind the scenes between NHS England and Downing Street.

The decision means even doctors and nurses who were due to have the vaccine in their hospital may now face a potentially lengthy delay before doing so, unless their underlying health or role in the NHS means they get one, he said separately.

“Our expectation is that the small number of NHS staff who have been booked for a vaccine will receive it, but hospitals will review those bookings in light of the JCVI guidance on prioritising the most at-risk staff.”

Hospitals will begin to inoculate care home staff by inviting them to come in for a jab, and people over 80 by giving the vaccine to those in that age group who are either already an inpatient or attending an outpatient appointment.

However, Hopson confirmed that, as the Guardian reported on Wednesday, the logistical complications the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine involves means the UK’s 400,000 care home residents will have to wait. It needs to be stored and transported at -75C and all 975 doses in each batch used within six hours of the batch being opened. That makes it unsuitable for use in care homes, because of the small numbers of residents and staff.

However, Scotland announced on Thursday that it would be rolling out the vaccine to care homes within a fortnight, casting doubt on these logistical obstacles and increasing the pressure on Boris Johnson to prioritise care home residents in England.

The MHRA is reviewing the conditions it attached to the vaccine’s licence and is expected to approve the sub-division of the 975-dose batches into smaller quantities, but not for about two weeks.

“MHRA and NHS currently validating/working on process to enable splitting of boxes of 975 doses into smaller parcels,” Hopson tweeted. If the MHRA approves splitting, then healthcare workers will take smaller batches from hospitals to care homes and start administering jabs there.

NHS staff will only be able to get the vaccine if there are any doses still unused after those three groups have been immunised, which may prove unlikely, given the limited number of doses arriving initially. Hopson said: “If there are vaccine doses left over, hospitals will then vaccinate staff based on defined risk/already booked.”

The Royal College of Nursing warned the change in the priority groups was leaving NHS staff confused. “We understand why care home staff and residents are being given top priority given the level of risk they are facing. But mixed messages around when health and care staff will receive the vaccine is creating a significant amount of confusion on the frontline,” said Mike Adams, its director for England.

Meanwhile, the NHS in England is finalising a public information campaign to advise people who are keen to have the vaccine not to inundate GP surgeries asking for an appointment in the wake of the excitement its approval has generated.

“We want to stop the public bombarding their GP with requests for the vaccine. So there’ll be a campaign which basically says ‘we’ll contact you, don’t contact us’, which stresses that people in the priority groups will be contacted to arrange their vaccination, in the way that people are when they’re being offered the winter flu jab,” said a source with knowledge of the plan.

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