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I'm going to become a millionaire by flogging "i survived winter 2020" t-shirts.

 

Seriously though, this winter will be a struggle for many, not least because there's no holiday to look forward to, but I'm just going to use the downtime to focus on a few things.  Weight-training, doing a bit more distance-learning, home improvement bits, have to set some mini-goals.

 

Alongside that, my mood will brighten immeasurably if Biden wins in November.  I'll just get drunk for the next four months and await the downfall of the Tories as a result of that. 

 

PS, does anyone know where to send film or tv scripts or novels online?   Might be a nice sub-thread, get people's creative juices flowing all winter, see if anyone can do it, bounce some shite off each other.  

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3 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

What are these nebulous "things"? Another false claim. You need to stop making things up. It's embarrassing.

Talking of embarassing, how are flu deaths getting on?

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Just now, Rico1304 said:

80 yrs after the Battle of Britain we are worrying about how we’ll cope with having to stay in for 6 months. 

It's at times like this that I'm thankful for the use of my Spitfire.

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42 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

It’s so nice that our generation are so willing to write off that generation.  Thanks for everything grandad but how will I cope being able to see only 5 of my friends. 

? Really equating the two? What is the definable benefit of staying inside for 6 months - to provide a window in which to perfect a vaccine?

 

Young generation (i.e. under 35) have been remarkably sanguine about all this I think; they've had immediate economic & social prospects squashed by elder Brexiteers based on a litany of lies. Now they are being asked to forego liberty alongside that for an illness that barely arouses sniffles in the vast, vast majority of them. I am amazed there are not more protests and riots from the set. What a State they are set to inherit from the 60+ year old plus set they are sacrificing their social/economic prospects to protect.

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38 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

It’s so nice that our generation are so willing to write off that generation.  Thanks for everything grandad but how will I cope being able to see only 5 of my friends. 

No one is suggesting throwing the at risk into a lake full of covid infected crocodiles.Some may argue the old and vulnerable should be shielded and the at risk paid to stay home until the worst of the virus passes. 

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2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’d say fewer deaths is a definable benefit.

By pushing the illness back again and again? The 4 month lockdown went swimmingly, didn't it? The "benefits" lasted what, all of 4 or 5 weeks? And what of all the other contributors to death? Has covid swept those firmly under the rug? It is not disappearing sans vaccine - lockdown or no.

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9 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

? Really equating the two? What is the definable benefit of staying inside for 6 months - to provide a window in which to perfect a vaccine?

 

Young generation (i.e. under 35) have been remarkably sanguine about all this I think; they've had immediate economic & social prospects squashed by elder Brexiteers based on a litany of lies. Now they are being asked to forego liberty alongside that for an illness that barely arouses sniffles in the vast, vast majority of them. I am amazed there are not more protests and riots from the set. What a State they are set to inherit from the 60+ year old plus set they are sacrificing their social/economic prospects to protect.

Yes, you’re right fuck em then. Revenge is ace. 

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4 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

By pushing the illness back again and again? The 4 month lockdown went swimmingly, didn't it? The "benefits" lasted what, all of 4 or 5 weeks? And what of all the other contributors to death? Has covid swept those firmly under the rug? It is not disappearing sans vaccine - lockdown or no.

We learn more, we buy time, we adapt.  We find out what works and what doesn’t and then the world is different place.  Or we go Logan’s Run.  I’m sure you’ll be happy to volunteer when your date comes. 

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10 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

We learn more, we buy time, we adapt.  We find out what works and what doesn’t and then the world is different place.  Or we go Logan’s Run.  I’m sure you’ll be happy to volunteer when your date comes. 

"We learn more, we buy time, we adapt"? How utterly vague. What more do you hope to learn? How much further can we adapt? As I've written before, the notion that we can burrow underground and feast on a winter of pick n mix, beer & Netflix boxes is a quite gorgeous philosophy. In the real world, the Job Support Scheme unveiled today was I think quite diabolical and appears to be a sure fire way to send millions of people to the unemployment line at the end of October. Whatever illusion people have in their minds as to what a second lockdown would look like, you can be quite confidently assured it will not be the summer-in-the-sun of a quarter of the workforce being on holiday at 80% pay.

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Just now, Alex_K said:

"We learn more, we buy time, we adapt"? How utterly vague. What more do you hope to learn? As I've written before, the notion that we can burrow underground and feast on a winter of pick n mix, beer & Netflix boxes is a quite gorgeous philosophy. In the real world, the Job Support Scheme unveiled today was I think quite diabolical and appears to be a sure fire way to send millions of people to the unemployment line at the end of October. Whatever illusion people have in their minds as to what a second lockdown would look like, you can be quite confidently assured it will not be the summer-in-the-sun of a quarter of the workforce being on holiday at 80% pay.

It’s been around for less than a year. We have adapted medical treatment and now survival is more likely, we know more.  You are absolutely fucking right, it might get very tough.  But tough now isn’t the same as tough in any other period in history.  Being unemployed now will be hard, it will will also be a better life than 99% of people who’ve ever lived. 

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2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

It’s been around for less than a year. We have adapted medical treatment and now survival is more likely, we know more.  You are absolutely fucking right, it might get very tough.  But tough now isn’t the same as tough in any other period in history.  Being unemployed now will be hard, it will will also be a better life than 99% of people who’ve ever lived. 

I suspect explaining this to the majority of the populace who risk foreclosing on their mortgage & are unable to feed their children in lieu of an illness that poses virtually zero threat to them may be a hard pitch. Fortunately those eventualities have been evaded now thanks to what was probably the greatest socialist intervention plan in the history of the UK. They become very, very real next time around. The issue is not and has never been black and white.

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5 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

I suspect explaining this to the majority of the populace who risk foreclosing on their mortgage & are unable to feed their children in lieu of an illness that poses virtually zero threat to them may be a hard pitch. Fortunately those eventualities have been evaded now thanks to what was probably the greatest socialist intervention plan in the history of the UK. They become very, very real next time around. The issue is not and has never been black and white.

So your worry is people being turned out into the street and starving.  But at the same time acknowledging that the government has intervened perhaps more than any other. Which is it? 
 

Its not black and white.  What is your acceptable  % of deaths? 

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