Coronavirus

[Barrington Womble]

20 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

Another jump in the Zoe app. 
 

 

Another jump today to 4605. 

[Captain Turdseye]

1 minute ago, Barrington Womble said:

Another jump today to 4605. 

Once it starts doubling daily they’ll start thinking about locking shit down again, imo. Maybe that’s already not far off when you consider the reported testing problems too. 

[Spy Bee]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Once it starts doubling daily they’ll start thinking about locking shit down again, imo. Maybe that’s already not far off when you consider the reported testing problems too. 

Considering that most epidemiologists don't support lockdown, I hope that we follow the science and don't consider doing this again. 

[Mudface]

1 minute ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Once it starts doubling daily they’ll start thinking about locking shit down again, imo. Maybe that’s already not far off when you consider the reported testing problems too. 

i'm not sure the Tory backbenchers will let them. They were already up in arms about dangerous Socilaist schemes like furlough, mask-wearing etc. 

[Captain Turdseye]

3 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Considering that most epidemiologists don't support lockdown, I hope that we follow the science and don't consider doing this again. 

If it starts escalating as it did, and it’s a big if, the public pressure might make the decision for them. It did last time. 

[Spy Bee]

15 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Another jump today to 4605. 

These are self-reported symptoms that have not been confirmed as COVID-19 positive cases, and include many of the same symptoms as caused by other conditions which may include flu, common cold, seasonal allergies and other ailments.

 

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/mapping-your-symptoms-uk

[Spy Bee]

5 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

If it starts escalating as it did, and it’s a big if, the public pressure might make the decision for them. It did last time. 

The lack of a meaningful public dialogue about the cost (in numerous ways, to society) of preventing Covid deaths is crazy.

[Bjornebye]

Priti Patel on this morning still calling it world beating when people are being asked to head to the other side of the country for a test. Its a balls up of epic proportions. 

[Spy Bee]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Priti Patel on this morning still calling it world beating when people are being asked to head to the other side of the country for a test. Its a balls up of epic proportions. 

This is the post truth age we live in. How do they get away with just telling blatant lies. I find it completely fucking baffling!

[Barrington Womble]

8 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

These are self-reported symptoms that have not been confirmed as COVID-19 positive cases, and include many of the same symptoms as caused by other conditions which may include flu, common cold, seasonal allergies and other ailments.

 

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/mapping-your-symptoms-uk

but that is not the basis of their numbers is it? It is just 1 data point (well actually about 10 data points as you can record about 10 different symptoms). They gain the most benefit in the accuracy of their numbers because they are now part of the testing programme, so people are testing through them, they get to see the results and map that to the symptoms. As mentioned yesterday, it is why they have that quite large margin of error. What they are absolutely not doing is going "someone has a cough = 1 case of covid".

 

However, regardless of that, the trend is clear and they have positive and negative testing to drive the trend. The objective of the study is to try and prevent the spread and provide early warning of spread from symptoms before people have results from tests - these figures will normally track in front of the government figures (and are usually higher than the government figures). If you want to ignore them because they're not happy enough for you, go on. I am just sharing the data from the biggest covid study in the country that has over 4m people contributing. I think it brings us some valuable data. To remind you of your post a couple back "i hope we follow the science". Well this is the science. 

 

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Priti Patel on this morning still calling it world beating when people are being asked to head to the other side of the country for a test. Its a balls up of epic proportions. 

she also without a hint of irony says she will report people to the police if she believes they're gathering in groups of more than 6, while her government yesterday voted to break the law. She is a cunt of the highest order. 

[Spy Bee]

9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

but that is not the basis of their numbers is it? It is just 1 data point (well actually about 10 data points as you can record about 10 different symptoms). They gain the most benefit in the accuracy of their numbers because they are now part of the testing programme, so people are testing through them, they get to see the results and map that to the symptoms. As mentioned yesterday, it is why they have that quite large margin of error. What they are absolutely not doing is going "someone has a cough = 1 case of covid".

Have you got a link to the methodology? I couldn't find one.

 

9 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 If you want to ignore them because they're not happy enough for you, go on. I am just sharing the data from the biggest covid study in the country that has over 4m people contributing. I think it brings us some valuable data. To remind you of your post a couple back "i hope we follow the science". Well this is the science. 

In winter you are going to have more respiratory conditions, so they won't track in the same way. I am already seeing a lot of colds knocking about. That's all I am questioning.

[Bruce Spanner]

22 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

This is the post truth age we live in. How do they get away with just telling blatant lies. I find it completely fucking baffling!

Because people watch the ‘news’ in the morning to find out which member of One Direction got an STD from Simon Cowell, they’re not interested, they just need to be told what they’re angry about today and can go about their day.

[YorkshireRed]

21 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

she also without a hint of irony says she will report people to the police if she believes they're gathering in groups of more than 6, while her government yesterday voted to break the law. She is a cunt of the highest order. 

Today it’s grass on your neighbours for breaking Covid rules, tomorrow it’ll be grass on your neighbours for ‘non patriotic activities’.

 

We’re heading for hell. Don’t forget your hats. 

[Guest]

If I go out hunting Tories, does that mean I can gather in groups of more than 6?

[Dougie Do'ins]

52 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

If it starts escalating as it did, and it’s a big if, the public pressure might make the decision for them. It did last time. 

I dont think they will for couple of reasons. 

 

The tories will not fund a second lockdown.  They'll put the decision to lockdown in the hands of the individual. 

 

I also think there'll be a change in a attitude from the public. I just don't think the enthusiasm for another lockdown will be there.  Especially if they're not getting paid 80% while locking down.

 

Not going to be a popular view but I the absence of a vaccine,  I think the only way forward is give the most vulnerable all the help we can and let everyone else get on with things as best we can.

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

Another jump today to 4605. 

it would seem that was yesterday's number - a refresh for today:

 

[Barrington Womble]

57 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Have you got a link to the methodology? I couldn't find one.

 

In winter you are going to have more respiratory conditions, so they won't track in the same way. I am already seeing a lot of colds knocking about. That's all I am questioning.

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/data-update-prevalence-covid

 

These guys are scientists who specialise in this field. I reckon they know that people get colds in the winter. 

[Barrington Womble]

44 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Today it’s grass on your neighbours for breaking Covid rules, tomorrow it’ll be grass on your neighbours for ‘non patriotic activities’.

 

We’re heading for hell. Don’t forget your hats. 

i genuinely don't think you are wrong at all. That is exactly the direction i think many in this government would like to go. 

[Section_31]

I think the point of the hard lockdown was to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and in that sense it did its job. the point of the lockdown was never to stop people catching the virus - which is impossible - and I think that's something that's fundamentally misunderstood by much of the public, and with a good few media agitators egging them on. 

 

Same old shit on GMB this morning, 'oooh I can go the pub but I can't visit granny'.

 

Do both then, I don't give a fuck, whatever happens is on your head. 

 

"Cases are rising etc" well yeah they will, it's a virus, you bottle it up during lockdown and when you come out of lockdown it starts flowing again. 

 

"oooh if you don't lockdown you don't care about people etc" 

 

Look, humans have been living with adversity and disease since they first walked out of Africa and cracked a neanderthal over the head with a big hammer - just because. 

 

"Oooh you let my kid go to school and be exposed to TB/smallpox/diphtheria/consumption/scarlet fever/polio you cunt, I'm keeping them off until some future time as they all have been cured." 

 

"All events and holidays this year will be postponed as it is not yet 1929 and we've not discovered antibiotics so a simple scratch could lead you  to lose your leg and/or die." 

 

We've just become a culture that can't deal with adversity and demands quick and simple solutions to complicated problems. What would happen if an asteroid was on the way I wonder? Build a giant umbrella? 

 

People can stay in the house if they want, but then can't complain when the economy collapses and  they've got no job to go back to, or they can keep their kid off school for years, but can't complain when they can't spell and develop mental health issues. 

 

[Gnasher]

36 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

If I go out hunting Tories, does that mean I can gather in groups of more than 6?

I'll forgive you.

[Barrington Womble]

6 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I think the point of the hard lockdown was to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and in that sense it did its job. the point of the lockdown was never to stop people catching the virus - which is impossible - and I think that's something that's fundamentally misunderstood by much of the public, and with a good few media agitators egging them on. 

 

Same old shit on GMB this morning, 'oooh I can go the pub but I can't visit granny'.

 

Do both then, I don't give a fuck, whatever happens is on your head. 

 

"Cases are rising etc" well yeah they will, it's a virus, you bottle it up during lockdown and when you come out of lockdown it starts flowing again. 

 

"oooh if you don't lockdown you don't care about people etc" 

 

Look, humans have been living with adversity and disease since they first walked out of Africa and cracked a neanderthal over the head with a big hammer - just because. 

 

"Oooh you let my kid go to school and be exposed to TB/smallpox/diphtheria/consumption/scarlet fever/polio you cunt, I'm keeping them off until some future time as they all have been cured." 

 

"All events and holidays this year will be postponed as it is not yet 1929 and we've not discovered antibiotics so a simple scratch could lead you  to lose your leg and/or die." 

 

We've just become a culture that can't deal with adversity and demands quick and simple solutions to complicated problems. What would happen if an asteroid was on the way I wonder? Build a giant umbrella? 

 

People can stay in the house if they want, but then can't complain when the economy collapses and  they've got no job to go back to, or they can keep their kid off school for years, but can't complain when they can't spell and develop mental health issues. 

 

does not your idea of all get to school and go the pub not make the idea of this rule of 6 fucking nonsense though? because it is fucking nonsense. if we're running about our normal lives, cramming on tube trains (which we would be doing if the government got its wish), kids being the petri dishes they are in school environments and all the rest of it, the rule of 6 is like trying to piss on a tree in oregan to put out a forest fire. 

 

i get the idea we may need to get on with it all at some point. i also agree the lockdown was also about protecting the NHS and bad government PR and fuck all to do with saving lives. And if you want to know why the british public think it was about saving lives, the government literally had a slogan that said it was. 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

11 hours ago, magicrat said:

I enjoy seeing all the wildlife there not that I’m any expert . Your mate and his very nice missus live in that house with the phone box by Old Town if I recall and yes they must have a great life. Tresco is a great walk round the top with fabulous views and deserted beaches  Don’t usually bother with with the crowds in the gardens any more . Last few years we have spent a few days staying on Agnes enjoying the peace and a few beers at the Turks Head .

Nice one.  I fucking hate St Agnes.  Rocky piece of shit. 

 

By the way, classic IOS summer weather today.  Low level cloud and fog banks.  While the rest of the country bathes in sunshine I've actually got my fucking lights on in the lounge because it's so gloomy.  Does my head in days like this. 

[Spy Bee]

38 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/data-update-prevalence-covid

 

These guys are scientists who specialise in this field. I reckon they know that people get colds in the winter. 

Why can't people just make their point without resorting to sarcasm and being a general arsehole?

 

The link you posted doesn't explain in any way how they are factoring in the rise in other respiratory conditions with similar symptoms.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

3 hours ago, A Red said:

Helford/Lizard, nearest town Helston.

 

We've been down here for 6 years but only been over to IOS once on a day trip from Terminal 1 of Lands End International Airport. It was a February and went over to Tresco, absolutely stunning. We keep meaning to go back but the mrs doesnt fancy going over on the Scillonian and its difficult to sort flying with the dogs.

 

 

You had many known cases around your way?

Falmouth is a big University town, and Truro has tons of teenagers in the schools and colleges, and then Cornwall College in Camborne, you'd think that an uptick in youngsters getting it would make a mark in Cornwall.