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1 minute ago, Elite said:

Do you know anyone that hasn't had a cold in the last year? Literally everyone has at least one a year.

I didn't really have one for about 4 years or so up until Christmas last year. Not a 'classic' one anyway with a runny nose and a cough etc. 

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11 minutes ago, Elite said:

Do you know anyone that hasn't had a cold in the last year? Literally everyone has at least one a year.

Supposedly the vast majority of viruses that give people a cold aren't coronaviruses. There's only a few of those. If that theory is correct, you'd probably have needed to catch one of those specific colds in the not too distant past to have some kind of protection. 

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8 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Supposedly the vast majority of viruses that give people a cold aren't coronaviruses. There's only a few of those. If that theory is correct, you'd probably have needed to catch one of those specific colds in the not too distant past to have some kind of protection. 

Oh FFS. A few posts back I was indestructible. Now I'm back on the at risk list.

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Near a pub tonight, parked outside it to go into a local shop. Tables with 6 chairs with 6 people all sat next to and opposite each other. People standing at the bar. People standing outside the entrance and exit. Basically no rules followed at all. I guess all is OK now.

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1 hour ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

A couple of years ? I can't get through a couple of months these days without some sort of cold symptom.

Ah but how many have you had since lockdown or anything else for that matter?

I certainly haven’t and nor has anyone else when I’ve asked them the same question 

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8 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, put it this way, I don't understand why Australia's stats would be unquestionable, while ours are fake.

I would say it seems like the government response has been a fair bit more honest down here than back in the UK.

Also all the testing is all “professionally” done - in person and no diy postal stuff, so likely to be better performed.

 

Mind you this outbreak has happened because of lax behaviour at one or two hotels where international arrivals were in quarantine. So that was a rather large government run fuck up.

Security guards took it home, a few family gatherings and boom.

 

Logically, considering the UK wasn’t even quarantining international arrivals for ages, and have mega relaxed the lockdowns you’d think it would be ripe for a massive surge in cases. However it doesn’t seem to look quite like that so far on the numbers.

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Crap for the NHS- https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/08/free-hospital-parking-to-end-for-nhs-staff-government-says

 

Good to see we're getting back to normal.

 



Free hospital parking to end for NHS staff in England, government says
Only ‘key patient groups and staff in certain circumstances’ will be exempt from fees as pandemic eases


Free hospital parking for NHS staff in England will end in all but “certain circumstances” once the coronavirus pandemic begins to ease, the government has said.

The health secretary, Matt Hancock, announced on 25 March that the government would cover the costs of car parking for NHS staff who he said were “going above and beyond every day” at hospitals in England.

But the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) has said the free parking will continue only for “key patient groups and NHS staff in certain circumstances” as the pandemic eases, although no further timeline has been given.

The British Medical Association (BMA) has said to reintroduce charges while the virus is still being fought would be “a rebuff to the immense efforts of staff across the country and the sacrifices they have made to keep others safe”.

Last week, Edward Argar, the health minister, said the support to make free parking available “cannot continue indefinitely” and added that the government was looking at how long it would “need” to go on.

Responding on Friday to a written question from Labour’s Rachael Maskell, he said: “The provision of free parking for National Health Service staff by NHS Trusts has not ended and nothing has changed since the announcement on 25 March. However, free parking for staff has only been made possible by support from local authorities and independent providers and this support cannot continue indefinitely.”

Argar said the government wanted to be able to make good on its promise of free hospital parking for the disabled, frequent outpatient attendees, parents of sick children who are staying overnight and nightshift workers.

He said: “Implementation of this commitment has been on hold whilst the NHS has been managing the Covid-19 pandemic and devoting its hospital parking capacity to staff and other facilities necessary for managing the pandemic.”

In response to another question from Labour’s Zarah Sultana, also answered on Friday, Argar said the government was “considering how long free parking for National Health Service staff will need to continue, recognising that this has only been made possible by external support from local authorities and independent sector providers”.

He added: “The government’s focus remains on ensuring the commitment of free parking for the groups identified in their announcement of 27 December 2019 is implemented once the pandemic abates.”

The Liberal Democrat leadership candidate Layla Moran said NHS workers must not be “saddled with extortionate parking charges” and said removing charges for staff had been “the right move”.

She said: “Our healthcare workers deserved to have certainty that they could get to work without extra charges or hassle. Now the government must provide clarity and ensure our workers are not saddled with extortionate parking charges.”

Dr Chaand Nagpaul, BMA council chair, said: “The BMA has always believed that it is unacceptable for staff who serve in our health service to be required to pay significant amounts of money to park their car in hospital grounds. This is even more salient as the nation recognises the immeasurable contribution of healthcare workers in fighting this pandemic.

“The government’s decision to waive parking charges during Covid-19 was a welcome announcement, but to reinforce them, before we’ve even won the fight against this virus, is a rebuff to the immense efforts of staff across the country and the sacrifices they have made to keep others safe.”

A DHSC spokeswoman said: “We want to make sure NHS staff can travel safely to work during the pandemic, which is why we requested that the NHS make parking free for staff, and that local authorities do the same with their car parks.

“When the pandemic begins to ease, the NHS will continue to provide free hospital car parking to key patient groups and NHS staff in certain circumstances. We will provide further updates on this in due course.”

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13 hours ago, Mudface said:

 

7 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Crap for the NHS- https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/08/free-hospital-parking-to-end-for-nhs-staff-government-says

 

Good to see we're getting back to normal.

 

 

 

 

Tories gonna Tory.

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2 minutes ago, Numero said:

Fuck ‘em, mate. Let ‘em walk. What has the NHS ever done for us, etc?

They're just after handouts like those cunts who make deliveries or stack shelves. Meanwhile real heroes and wealth creators like Lord Sugar and Richard Branson- Gawd Bless 'em- don't get a penny off the government.

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3 minutes ago, PestiRed said:


Let me guess - they outsourced hospital parking for a quick pay-off and now can’t afford the fees to provide it free

Yup- they can afford it, just another example of Tory penny pinching. This only applies to England, parking's free in Scotland and Wales for patients and staff. Hospitals in general in the UK seem to be set up like train stations with various franchises charging ridiculous prices to a captive audience.

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1 hour ago, Numero said:

The economy is important for the well-being of the population, but if the population are all dead what’s the point?

 

All dead, or just a tiny fraction, overwhelmingly comprising of the old and already sick?

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37 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

All dead, or just a tiny fraction, overwhelmingly comprising of the old and already sick?

 

*puffs out cheeks*

 

Yes, I wasn't being literally saying every single person is dead. That said, every single person that has died will no longer experience the benefits of the economy. So, ya know, still important. 

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