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13 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Only 1 in 5 people have symptoms on the day of their test is what it actually said.

 

Right. The number testing positive who had symptoms then, previously or subsequently was 1 in 3.

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2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Turns out that "herd immunity" and "taking it on the chin" isn't a way to survive a pandemic. 

 

Who knew?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

 


 

Wasn't that one of the problems though. It was all guesswork as at the time of the outbreak, we understood very little about the virus  ?

 

We dont actually know that much more about it now do we ?

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2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Turns out that "herd immunity" and "taking it on the chin" isn't a way to survive a pandemic. 

 

Who knew?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53315983

 


 

That would be correct if the only way to achieve herd immunity is for a very high percentage of people to have antibodies. 

 

I'm no defending the governments policy here. If we are close to achieving herd immunity, we have stumbled into it by chance and mismanagement.

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Following on from my stay in hospitaI, i had a scan on my lungs and they both show entirely normal lung function and I'm being took off blood thinners after 6 months as they can pinpoint Covid as the trigger. So it doesn't appear Covid/Blood clots have caused any permanent damage, which I'm thankful for. I have escaped quite lightly in regards to others but at the same time suffered more than most people who get it.

 

Hopefully I'm immune as well! Can't be doing with that shit again.

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2 minutes ago, Elite said:

Following on from my stay in hospitaI, i had a scan on my lungs and they both show entirely normal lung function and I'm being took off blood thinners after 6 months as they can pinpoint Covid as the trigger. So it doesn't appear Covid/Blood clots have caused any permanent damage, which I'm thankful for. I have escaped quite lightly in regards to others but at the same time suffered more than most people who get it.

Good work mate. On the plus side you've got immunity and Nam stories.

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Just now, Section_31 said:

Good work mate. On the plus side you've got immunity and Nam stories.

Cheers. I'll be that boring cunt in the pub in 20 years, telling everyone how I nearly lost a lung in the Covid war but went full Rambo on it using blood thinners.

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Melbourne has locked down because of 191 daily infections? Fuck, England still carries on with 1000 daily infections. Welcome to Hell.

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38 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

Melbourne has locked down because of 191 daily infections? Fuck, England still carries on with 1000 daily infections. Welcome to Hell.


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There were 352 new cases for the whole of the UK yesterday.

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Only 2 new infections in Scotland and the first death in 4 days- this is on the weekday where cases usually balloon due to the weekend lag too. I assume the restrictions will be lifted to match England's in the next couple of weeks.

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14 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:


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There were 352 new cases for the whole of the UK yesterday.

And you believe that to be true when there are no testing stats?

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54 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

Melbourne has locked down because of 191 daily infections? Fuck, England still carries on with 1000 daily infections. Welcome to Hell.

Australia has had such a small amount of exposure, that they risk a repeat of what has happened in the UK if they don't lock down, it would seem.

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1 minute ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

And you believe that to be true when there are no testing stats?

It's true- the stats that are missing are the number of unique people tested. Apparently it's 'too difficult', more likely testing is so disjointed between the various providers that they can't correlate the figures properly. There were over a thousand a day barely a week and a half ago though.

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2 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

And you believe that to be true when there are no testing stats?

 

Well, put it this way, I don't understand why Australia's stats would be unquestionable, while ours are fake.

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41 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, put it this way, I don't understand why Australia's stats would be unquestionable, while ours are fake.

Why would Australia lock down Melbourne and lie about the stats? It would make more sense if they kept Melbourne open, there is no point in lying and locking down.

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46 minutes ago, Mudface said:

It's true- the stats that are missing are the number of unique people tested. Apparently it's 'too difficult', more likely testing is so disjointed between the various providers that they can't correlate the figures properly. There were over a thousand a day barely a week and a half ago though.

This is what I cannot fathom at all. Either the numbers were too high then and accurate now or they were accurate then and too low now. How can they have dropped by 80% in a week and a half? It just doesn't add up. Unless the pillar two stats get added on later, in which case it probably jumps to nearer a thousand a day now.

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2 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

This is what I cannot fathom at all. Either the numbers were too high then and accurate now or they were accurate then and not accurate now. How can they have dropped by 80% in a week and a half? It just doesn't add up.

Over 10 days, the 7 day rolling average is down less than 50%.

 

If we have stumbled into some level of herd immunity, that would account for such a drop. If the virus has in some other way started to burn out, that would also account for it.

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3 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

This is what I cannot fathom at all. Either the numbers were too high then and accurate now or they were accurate then and too low now. How can they have dropped by 80% in a week and a half? It just doesn't add up. Unless the pillar two stats get added on later, in which case it probably jumps to nearer a thousand a day now.

I think it might have just reached a tipping point where the prevalence is low enough that transmissions can't really take hold. We had a few weeks in Scotland where the daily infections were halving each week. The 7 day rolling average is still around 600 a day though, and the figure yesterday was artificially low due to the weekend lag.

 

If they are missing cases due to lack of testing, then it won't go well for them, and they'd be really stupid to do that.

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