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Coronavirus


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15 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I assume this is overall cases in the UK?

 

Downward happens in mid May when the total goes from above 250 to below it in the space of a few days.

Yeah I've no idea what happened there and I'm assuming there's some type of bullshit involved, hopefully they'll get called out on it though if they're badly fucking around with the figures, or maybe that's already happened and I've not seen it.

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Hancock just taking the piss now. Stood there a few days ago and said Cummings had done the right thing and now comes out with this shit. And also talks about reviewing the fines people received in lockdown, retrospectively trying to cover for Cummings again. Nobody is going to listen to these clowns again.


 

 

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Q. Can you ask people/families with no symptoms to self-isolate when the people giving the orders aren’t following them?

 

Hancock says it’s important people play their part in the test and trace programme.

 

People are doing this for their loved ones, he says.

If you’re phoned up and asked to self-isolate because you’ve been in close contact with someone who’s tested positive, it’s your civic duty to then self-isolate for yourself, your community and your family, he says.

 

This will allow us to start lifting blanket measures, he adds.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Touching surfaces then your eyes/mouth isn't supposed to be the main way it spreads but washing hands for some could be the difference between getting it or not, and considering that anyone catching it could lead to a chain reaction of loads of others catching it, clearly that could be a huge difference.

I'm not saying it can't be transmitted that way.  I just think the main route of transmission is through breathing.

 

So when Boris Johnson says that the most important thing you can do is wash your hands, as he did at yesterday's daily briefing, I disagree with him.

 

I'm bang into my hand washing, as it happens.  I have hand sanitizer with me wherever I go.  

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11 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I'm not saying it can't be transmitted that way.  I just think the main route of transmission is through breathing.

 

I didn't think you'd said that (I haven't been reading much of this thread recently either) and was wondering what Spy Bee's angle was with the post too. I guess I know now haha.

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I think the clowns who’ve been running this shit show are quite happy to let this Cummings farce drag on as it stops people bringing up more bullshit such as Johnson promising 200,000 daily tests by the end of May 

and the uk having the highest daily death rate in the world .

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4 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

It almost sounds like they're making it up as they go along. AND I KNOW THAT CAN'T BE TRUE.

Part of me gleefully says fuck it they get.what they voted for. On the other hand have to temper my , I told you so , with fuck me I (and everyone else) is in this shite for 4 years also. Can categorically say I did not expect it to be this bad covid or no covid yeah I knew they were liars but I never thought they would go to these lengths. Has anyone watched that interview with burley and gove this morning he makes Alan Partridge (at his cringeworthyness worst) sound credible.

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21 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Cummings quick to correct Hancock.

 

 

 

It's mad that some people don't see the issue with Kuenssburg. 

 

She's a journalist. If the government have messed up or not made something clear enough, let them own that and make the clarifications themselves, officially. It's not her job to follow them round with a mop and bucket to clear up the constant trail of shit and piss that they secrete. And, her willingness to do that begs questions as to what she's getting out of the arrangement? And what we, the viewing electorate, aren't getting because of this same arrangement?

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3 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

It's mad that some people don't see the issue with Kuenssburg. 

 

She's a journalist. If the government have messed up or not made something clear enough, let them own that and make the clarifications themselves, officially. It's not her job to follow them round with a mop and bucket to clear up the constant trail of shit and piss that they secrete. And, her willingness to do that begs questions as to what she's getting out of the arrangement? And what we, the viewing electorate, aren't getting because of this same arrangement?

She knows whose beak to keep powdered to keep herself in a high paid job. She should have been sacked for getting caught making up lies about Corbyn by an internal BBC investigation. Nope, she got promoted. 

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21 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

She knows whose beak to keep powdered to keep herself in a high paid job. She should have been sacked for getting caught making up lies about Corbyn by an internal BBC investigation. Nope, she got promoted. 

And there'll be a nice communications job at the Tory party if she wants it. 

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30 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

It's mad that some people don't see the issue with Kuenssburg. 

 

She's a journalist. If the government have messed up or not made something clear enough, let them own that and make the clarifications themselves, officially. It's not her job to follow them round with a mop and bucket to clear up the constant trail of shit and piss that they secrete. And, her willingness to do that begs questions as to what she's getting out of the arrangement? And what we, the viewing electorate, aren't getting because of this same arrangement?

It's showbusiness at that level, not journalism. Ask yourself the last time you saw a genuine scoop from the TV news media, except for specialist shows like dispatches and panorama. If number 10 makes an announcement and Peston is there and she's not, then she serves the beeb no purpose any more. It's the lobby system that's the problem but she's especially bad at hiding how much of a hostage they are to it. 

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37 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Sorry for being a bit thick but what does the" 2020 everyone" bit mean?


Maybe it’s a hidden code as the Stockholm Syndrome is wearing off! Cummings has 2020 vision because he never had covid!

 

I assume it is, like, er, 2020, is like, totally crazy, you know. Random.

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2 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

Not sure that's all true, it was just better contained - https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-18/sars-coronavirus-china-epidemic

 

It lasted a certain number of months and just disappeared. There are other respiratory viruses that have followed a similar path. All the suggestions are that despite local hotspots this is going the same way. 

 

I might be wrong, we'll see. I'm not spreading misinformation though. I have posted links about cross immunity and about T Cells. I have posted the opinion of a Director of the WHO.

I read a few articles when people were 1st claiming SARS provided covid19 immunity (all easily googleable) that talked about the big differences in the diseases, how it was wrong to compare both and within that I picked up the piece of the transmission while asymptomatic being quite unique for these types of disease. Neither of us are epidemiologists, so there's no point arguing about that. However, a virus that exists in hundreds of thousands of people and has infected millions, can simply not be compared to a disease that just died out when it only infected about 8000 people globally. It's just silly to do so as it's clearly not comparing apples for apples. Sure be hopeful, but there's just no basis for the argument

 

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On 24/05/2020 at 17:07, TheHowieLama said:

At some point those numbers will end up being normalized in a couple of ways.

 

Didn't take long, and of course. science:

 

McEnany repeatedly cited a scientific report suggesting up to 2.2 million Americans could die of coronavirus if the government did not take action to limit the spread of the virus.

“The president made the very hard choice of shutting down the economy, so we avoided that extraordinary number,” McEnany said. “We are far below 2.2 million dead Americans because of the actions of President Trump.”

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