Coronavirus

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I've seen them on the same Scrabble tile rack.  Does that count?

#BoredGames

[Mudface]

51 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I agree with this but also agree that people can't be locked down for much longer.  It's the ultimate catch 22. The UK has backed itself into a corner with no wiggle room. Ease the lockdown and more people die, extend the lockdown and the economy continues to slump like never before, mental health issues come into play and so on.  It's the price we all have to pay for disastrous leadership.  

Aye, it's the worst of both worlds. Typical half-arsed British fudge because Johnson fancied having some time off, the lazy cunt.

[johnsusername]

3 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Don't know if it's been posted, sums up why and where we are.

 

https://appeasement.org

I'd forgotten about this, what a hero. Churchiliian in his nature. 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

Corbyn would've been dangerous as a PM though. He'd have been bad for the UK's security and his followers were like a cult.

 

And here we are, over 30,000 dead and Boris Johnson's supporters still lapping up his bullshit.

 

If Corbyn had a cult it looks like we have one here too but with one small difference : it's a death cult.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

Yeah, the Spanish Tories want to fuck the lockdown off. And Madrid's regional government is run by the Spanish Tories.

 

He was a great player but it's more evidence that selling him to Chelsea was the best thing to do. I didn't think he'd be running the local government once he got back to Madrid though, crazy.

[Pureblood]

16 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Corbyn would've been dangerous as a PM though. He'd have been bad for the UK's security and his followers were like a cult.

 

And here we are, over 30,000 dead and Boris Johnson's supporters still lapping up his bullshit.

 

If Corbyn had a cult it looks like we have one here too but with one small difference : it's a death cult.

Very well put. 

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

 

 

[SilverSong]

10 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I've just read a comment which summed it all up. The latest mooted easings of lockdown restriction suggest that the government are happy for people to take managed risks to enable them to return to work, but aren't equally happy for these same people to take these same managed risks to enable them to see their family and friends. 

 

People as economic units are more important than actual human beings. 

Ba da boom, ba da bing. Nail meet head.

[Scooby Dudek]

1 hour ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

 

 

I am expecting that to be nowhere near the papers or news media or anywhere near the daily Tory propaganda brief tomorrow. 

 

As an aside, I was again told off for swearing excessively at the governments reply,

"1 billion items etc, stay home save lives etc" bearing absolutely no relation to the question asked in relation to why did you allow 45% of your emergency stockpile to become out of date. 

 

 

Watching that report it appears the government strategy changed dramatically in 2010 into a cost saving strategy, what changed in 2010? 

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

 

4 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Where the fuck is the prime minister.

Ask yourself 'where is Laura Kuenssberg'  and you'll be about five feet away from the answer you seek.

[TheHowieLama]

18 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

 

Ask yourself 'where is Laura Kuenssberg'  and you'll be about five feet away from the answer you seek.

Six feet pal, six feet.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

If the tories want people to relax, then stop meeting in parliament on videolink.

After you.

[littletedwest]

The government have managed to have the shit or get of the toilet issue.They've walked away from the toilet, shit everywhere on the floor and are now trying to clear up with their own close. Luckily for them the media see a mate who looks fine

[littletedwest]

I meant clothes,  bit pissed

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

11 hours ago, sir roger said:

True that Jordy , I blame the Jews.

Satire at your age mate, well done!

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

10 hours ago, Mudface said:

They've attempted to remove those factors from the figures, and you still get nearly twice the death rate in black people, Indians and Pakistanis than you do in whites. There is also a higher prevalence of obesity, heart disease and diabetes in these groups and that seems to be a particular danger with this disease, so that could be part of the problem.

 

^Sorry, @skend04 said it better, didn't realise he or she had posted.

When you get to know her better, Skend will let you call her Hilda.

[Mudface]

2 minutes ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

When you get to know her better, Skend will let you call her Hilda.

As long as it's not 'daddy'.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

9 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

They still don't know if masks help or not, they still don't know the basic risk or ways of transmission, they are not sure if small children are spreading it or not, they don't know why are some countries or areas hit so hard while others are not, they don't know if any of the drugs they have been using help or not, they don't know if ventilators help, or make things worse. There is still have a lot of people (experts) not entirely convinced the virus is actually natural, thy don't know how many strains there are or if the virus has significantly mutated. They don't know when exactly did all of this begin. They don't know if you have to distance 1 meter, 1.5 or 2 meters.

They don't know how many people in the UK died in care homes and at home. They don't know why are people still being infected in great numbers in care homes all around Europe despite all the precautions.

 

Essentially, they don't know anything. Except how to strip socioeconomic factors from an unknown  number of dead people to show that some ethnic groups are more at risk. That they are pretty certain about.

If you have to distance by any amount .5m to half a km, then we can extrapolate from this that masks must work in reducing the amount of bollocks that emanates from ones mouth and nose into the vicinity of another, otherwise why look to social distance? Or do you think it could be spread by nits, with vast leaps from human to human?

the fact masks work in reducing the spread is indubitable, the only question is by how much.

the case study has been set in Asia for the previous SARS outbreak along with this one.

walk around melbourne and it’s rare as rocking horse shite to see someone who appears ethnically East Asian to not have a mask on.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

9 hours ago, Lario said:

So is Katlyn Jenner fucked or immune?

She’s fine, Sam Smith is fucked though.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

8 hours ago, ))) said:

90’s Gabba fuck right off.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

8 hours ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

 

 

Brilliant this.

 

 

Knows his shit when it comes to Economics, fuck know why he went so far with PPI.

wouldnt surprise me

if Mervyn King Or someone associated with the BoE has been on at him to speak up.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

8 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Im not Spy Bee. Sum that up in two words. F.O 

Starmer - Shite.

Too many words? I forgot you were in sales

[Jose Jones]

1 hour ago, Audrey Witherspoon said:

If you have to distance by any amount .5m to half a km, then we can extrapolate from this that masks must work in reducing the amount of bollocks that emanates from ones mouth and nose into the vicinity of another, otherwise why look to social distance? Or do you think it could be spread by nits, with vast leaps from human to human?

the fact masks work in reducing the spread is indubitable, the only question is by how much.

the case study has been set in Asia for the previous SARS outbreak along with this one.

walk around melbourne and it’s rare as rocking horse shite to see someone who appears ethnically East Asian to not have a mask on.

I was listening to a talk a little while back from someone who is very involved in the Australian response and he reckons that "the science" is in fact very much mixed when it comes to face mask use.

Whilst proper masks properly applied obviously have a good effect in preventing spread, once you get the public using face masks they are often badly applied - so stuff escapes out the sides or whatever, or made out of homemade material that doesn't work at all.

 

Wearing face masks is also proven to have people touch their face more often when fiddling with the mask - and therefore getting potential infection on their hands, which can then be spread to other surfaces.  Also there is evidence that when people are wearing face masks they feel more confident to go out of the house, more likely to be closer to other people and so are then more likely to help spread the disease.

 

So it's kind of like a freakonomics type situation where what you would expect to have a good effect actually when you look at all the data is the opposite.

 

The difficulty in explaining to the public the nuances of that and how to only use effective masks in effective ways, is why the Aussie government has not recommended face mask use. 

 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

4 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

I was listening to a talk a little while back from someone who is very involved in the Australian response and he reckons that "the science" is in fact very much mixed when it comes to face mask use.

Whilst proper masks properly applied obviously have a good effect in preventing spread, once you get the public using face masks they are often badly applied - so stuff escapes out the sides or whatever, or made out of homemade material that doesn't work at all.

 

Wearing face masks is also proven to have people touch their face more often when fiddling with the mask - and therefore getting potential infection on their hands, which can then be spread to other surfaces.  Also there is evidence that when people are wearing face masks they feel more confident to go out of the house, more likely to be closer to other people and so are then more likely to help spread the disease.

 

So it's kind of like a freakonomics type situation where what you would expect to have a good effect actually when you look at all the data is the opposite.

 

The difficulty in explaining to the public the nuances of that and how to only use effective masks in effective ways, is why the Aussie government has not recommended face mask use. 

 

Ah piss off JJ!

aye I think on some of the points you’re making it’s like the cycling helmet argument. As in wearing a helmet can make cyclists and drivers more confident and risky, the requirement to wear a mask can put people off going out - I wouldn’t ride a bike for 1st 10 years here due to the helmet law. And so any supposed benefit to wearing the mask maybe offset by the affect on people who refuse to wear a helmet and thus gain the health benefits of cycling. Ben Goldacre did a paper on it and I was rereading “it’s much more difficult than that” a few weeks ago.

however, the outcome

on the cycling helmet study was inconclusive, so I’m claiming half a point.

and you lose half a point for not providing references!

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/07/i-made-millions-last-debt-crisis-rich-win-coronavirus-fair-tax

 

Shame we have a government of vultures.