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13 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Why on earth would you want to stand in a queue that long for something which isn't essential? 

 

The fuck else you got to do apart from get away from the Mrs who's been bugging the shit out of you for weeks to do 'jobs' around the house?

 

A lot of happy blokes in that queue.

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Apparently we still don't even have effective vaccines against the plague so I've little hope of us solving this shortly. There's treatment for the plague that helps people recover but not an effective vaccine from what I've seen, especially the pneumonic variant. It's really unsettling reading about it. If we can increase testing and tracing properly and allow the cases to lessen along with wearing masks, distancing, washing hands, etc, we might have some hope.

 

Then if we do have more outbreaks in the future we have to be ready to isolate, test and trace in whatever areas it's in instantly, or this shit all starts up again. If it does start spreading around several countries again closing the fucking airports might help too, or at least get teams to test people passing through instead of allowing them all to stroll in (headcock said 15,000 a day are doing this recently) like nothing's even happening.

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Politicians in sweden say the hospitals are doing okey and everything is normal, while nurses are now saying that its total caos and mortality has risin to the extreme so they now do nothing byt work 60-80 hours a week dealing with death everyday and putting corpses in bodybags is common work. 

 

That experiment has totaly fucked up but just like the UK i think their government is getting allot of support. 

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Why focus on one disease we haven't got a vaccine for, rather than all the other vaccines we have been able to develop. Immunity looks very likely post-infection, and risk rates to anybody healthy and under 60 are negligible. This is of course horrible for anybody at risk, but life will go on for the vast majority of people.

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Just now, Funkasy said:

Politicians in sweden say the hospitals are doing okey and everything is normal, while nurses are now saying that its total caos and mortality has risin to the extreme so they now do nothing byt work 60-80 hours a week.

 

That experiment has totaly fucked up but just like the UK i think their government is getting allot of support. 

Well their theory is that every country will ultimately have the same deaths per population size and maybe they are right. It's a ballsy decision, but I can understand it. There are about 10,000 urgent suspected cancer referrals not happening every quarter at the moment, you can extrapolate this for other conditions, plus the impact on domestic violence, mental health etc. There is a flip side to this coin.

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48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

The fuck else you got to do apart from get away from the Mrs who's been bugging the shit out of you for weeks to do 'jobs' around the house?

 

A lot of happy blokes in that queue.

Exactly. Finally some alone time.

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1 hour ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

I could think of more interesting things to do to alleviate boredom. If it is down to boredom then they are just adding to the suffering. 

It's the same with loads of things - people were told they could only exercise near home and for a maximum one hour and all of a sudden people who don't exercise are jogging, going on bike rides, driving to fucking Snowdon. 

 

The same people will be moaning a day into the end of the lockdown complaining the lockdown should still be on. Basically, a lot of people in this country are bad bellends. Look at the NHS clap shaming for further proof. 

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36 minutes ago, Funkasy said:

Politicians in sweden say the hospitals are doing okey and everything is normal, while nurses are now saying that its total caos and mortality has risin to the extreme so they now do nothing byt work 60-80 hours a week dealing with death everyday and putting corpses in bodybags is common work. 

 

That experiment has totaly fucked up but just like the UK i think their government is getting allot of support. 

 

Source? Their numbers say they have 70 to 80 deaths a day now on average, 2 out of 3 are people over the age of 80.

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3 hours ago, Pidge said:

 Along with understanding the possible long-term effects of the virus.

Yea, the knock on effects are going to be terrible.

 

The newspaper reports on the case of Patricia Dowd, 57, who it says had reported flu-like symptoms in the days before her death on 6 February. An autopsy, performed by medical examiner Susan Parson, “found Covid-19 viral infection in her heart, trachea, lungs and intestines”.

The forensic pathologist Judy Melinek, who was asked by the Chronicle to review the autopsy report, was quoted as saying: “There’s something abnormal about the fact that a perfectly normal heart has burst open... The heart has ruptured. Normal hearts don’t rupture.”

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8 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Yea, the knock on effects are going to be terrible.

 

The newspaper reports on the case of Patricia Dowd, 57, who it says had reported flu-like symptoms in the days before her death on 6 February. An autopsy, performed by medical examiner Susan Parson, “found Covid-19 viral infection in her heart, trachea, lungs and intestines”.

The forensic pathologist Judy Melinek, who was asked by the Chronicle to review the autopsy report, was quoted as saying: “There’s something abnormal about the fact that a perfectly normal heart has burst open... The heart has ruptured. Normal hearts don’t rupture.”

Fucking hell. Still, I've got to get down to B and Q, it's important! 

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1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

The fuck else you got to do apart from get away from the Mrs who's been bugging the shit out of you for weeks to do 'jobs' around the house?

 

A lot of happy blokes in that queue.

Relax on the settee and watch Colombo. 

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13 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Yea, the knock on effects are going to be terrible.

 

The newspaper reports on the case of Patricia Dowd, 57, who it says had reported flu-like symptoms in the days before her death on 6 February. An autopsy, performed by medical examiner Susan Parson, “found Covid-19 viral infection in her heart, trachea, lungs and intestines”.

The forensic pathologist Judy Melinek, who was asked by the Chronicle to review the autopsy report, was quoted as saying: “There’s something abnormal about the fact that a perfectly normal heart has burst open... The heart has ruptured. Normal hearts don’t rupture.”

That's cheered us all up.

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One thing I don't understand, if they had first fatality in Santa Catalina at the beginning of February, how come there has only been about 7,000 confirmed cases and 250 deaths so far in the entire Bay Area? Even with the disputed study death rate of 0.1%, this is 250,000 cases in the population of about 7 million, with the virus spreading freely for about two months and then, presumably a month more with some kind of lockdown.

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13 minutes ago, SasaS said:

One thing I don't understand, if they had first fatality in Santa Catalina at the beginning of February, how come there has only been about 7,000 confirmed cases and 250 deaths so far in the entire Bay Area? Even with the disputed study death rate of 0.1%, this is 250,000 cases in the population of about 7 million, with the virus spreading freely for about two months and then, presumably a month more with some kind of lockdown.

No idea 

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8 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

No idea 

But it is baffling, right? They are talking now about possible different strains, West Coast would be Wunan strain and East Coast mutated, European, which would have to be much more contagious. Or is it that you need a big group of people that are exposed much more heavily for a longer period to actually get it going properly, did they say that it was the Orthodox Jews in New York or something? And then it burns through families and workplaces, possible public transport, but maybe not so much in the shops or the streets, parks, in that it requires longer sustained contact.

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@SasaS

As we have discussed I am not sure I believe the lions share of statistics on this due to misreporting, underreporting or downright cover up.

 

That said, we know population density is a big factor - California is a huge bunch of land. They also have tested alot, probably mostly in the densest areas, and started earlier than most states.

 

Using the one constant deaths divided by cases it is still 4% and that assumes with higher testing more asymptomatic cases were recorded.

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4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

@SasaS

As we have discussed I am not sure I believe the lions share of statistics on this due to misreporting, underreporting or downright cover up.

 

That said, we know population density is a big factor - California is a huge bunch of land. They also have tested alot, probably mostly in the densest areas, and started earlier than most states.

 

Using the one constant deaths divided by cases it is still 4% and that assumes with higher testing more asymptomatic cases were recorded.

True, but we are not talking California but Bay Area alone, which is 3 times the population density of New York State. And there were no measures in place for almost 2 months since the first cases.

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