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31 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If our right wing and psychopathic gov can let thousands of people die with a herd immunity plan maybe they can get a few lackeys to burn down some masts too if the aim is bringing in new laws in the future aimed at "conspiracy theorists", curbing free speech and removing a fair amount of online content that they don't like. Sounds mental I know, but I think stranger stuff has happened.

 

Like, killing thousands by letting a virus spread around the population of the country for example.

 

So no I don't care if it sounds stupid and I'm not saying I think that's the case. I definitely wouldn't rule it out though.

 

I knew I'd be ridiculed for saying it but whatever. When the Nightingale hospital mast was targetted I thought it seemed off and still do, unless that mast was also in use for local houses in the area or something. If so maybe it's not so odd.

 

I think you're underestimating the fucking stupidity of Joe Public, and their ability to be whipped up into a frenzy by youtube videos created by other morons.

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2 minutes ago, Aw Geez said:

 

I think you're underestimating the fucking stupidity of Joe Public, and their ability to be whipped up into a frenzy by youtube videos created by other morons.

Correct. Half the people are more stupid than the average person.  David Icke fills stadiums,

Andrew Wakefield is now a millionaire and Gwyneth Paltrow sells women jade eggs to stick up their fannies.  

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40 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If our right wing and psychopathic gov can let thousands of people die with a herd immunity plan maybe they can get a few lackeys to burn down some masts too if the aim is bringing in new laws in the future aimed at "conspiracy theorists", curbing free speech and removing a fair amount of online content that they don't like. Sounds mental I know, but I think stranger stuff has happened.

 

Like, killing thousands by letting a virus spread around the population of the country for example.

 

So no I don't care if it sounds stupid and I'm not saying I think that's the case. I definitely wouldn't rule it out though.

 

I knew I'd be ridiculed for saying it but whatever. When the Nightingale hospital mast was targetted I thought it seemed off and still do, unless that mast was also in use for local houses in the area or something. If so maybe it's not so odd.


There were three blokes arrested for setting fire to a mast in Essex over the weekend. I’m pretty sure that’s not how MI:5 works.

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21 minutes ago, Aw Geez said:

I think you're underestimating the fucking stupidity of Joe Public, and their ability to be whipped up into a frenzy by youtube videos created by other morons.

 

Yeah that's probably the case and maybe I'm going tinfoil myself a bit about the idea of tinfoils burning 5G masts. It's hard to believe this is even happening in the first place, this year is seriously mental.

 

Fears over 5G unconnected to coronavirus aren't tinfoil though and there's reasons to be wary of it being rolled out, which could be leading some people to freak out more thinking that it's being ignored.

 

There's hundreds of scientists here : http://www.5gappeal.eu/the-5g-appeal/

 

EU parliament research service : https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2020/646172/EPRS_BRI(2020)646172_EN.pdf

 

An article in Scientifc American : https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/we-have-no-reason-to-believe-5g-is-safe/

 

And there'll be more but I stopped looking after a certain point.

 

So despite the media saying there's no connection to coronavirus at all that isn't always the main concern. The problem for some is that they're thinking that negative effects from 5G are making people less able to deal with the virus, not that it's causing it.

 

Anyway if we can't get any answers from the gov about so much of what's going on with the response to this virus there's zero chance that 5G health fears are going to be resolved. So if it is people freaking out it's unlikely to stop any time soon.

 

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9 minutes ago, Anubis said:

There were three blokes arrested for setting fire to a mast in Essex over the weekend. I’m pretty sure that’s not how MI:5 works.

 

The mind control 5G waves might've made them more stupid leading to them getting caught.

 

*gets coat, leaves.*

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7 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

This is boss. 

 

A 99 year old bloke doing laps of his garden in his walking frame, hoping to earn £1,000 for NHS charities. 

 

As of tonight, his justgiving appeal has raised £4.1m!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/14/war-veteran-99-raises-2m-for-nhs-by-walking-lengths-of-back-garden

When I saw it, he raised £500,000. Now over £4m? He'll get a bonus letter from the Queen.

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50 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah that's probably the case and maybe I'm going tinfoil myself a bit about the idea of tinfoils burning 5G masts. It's hard to believe this is even happening in the first place, this year is seriously mental.

 

Fears over 5G unconnected to coronavirus aren't tinfoil though and there's reasons to be wary of it being rolled out, which could be leading some people to freak out more thinking that it's being ignored.

 

There's hundreds of scientists here : http://www.5gappeal.eu/the-5g-appeal/

 

EU parliament research service : https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2020/646172/EPRS_BRI(2020)646172_EN.pdf

 

An article in Scientifc American : https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/we-have-no-reason-to-believe-5g-is-safe/

 

And there'll be more but I stopped looking after a certain point.

 

So despite the media saying there's no connection to coronavirus at all that isn't always the main concern. The problem for some is that they're thinking that negative effects from 5G are making people less able to deal with the virus, not that it's causing it.

 

Anyway if we can't get any answers from the gov about so much of what's going on with the response to this virus there's zero chance that 5G health fears are going to be resolved. So if it is people freaking out it's unlikely to stop any time soon.

 

How would a mobile phone mast cause a virus? Am I missing something?  If people actually thought about that question and answered it logically, people like David Icke and Eamonn Holmes wouldn't have an audience. 

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1 hour ago, Anubis said:


There were three blokes arrested for setting fire to a mast in Essex over the weekend. I’m pretty sure that’s not how MI:5 works.

What are masts made of? Is it even possible to set them on fire? 

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3 hours ago, davelfc said:

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A total of 1,999 patients were hospitalised after their symptoms got worse. 

The researchers found is that 'in the decision tree for admission, the most important features were being over 65 and obesity.' 

The authors said they were 'surprised' that 'cancer and lung disease did not feature more prominently in the risk models'.   

 

The study has been posted on archive site medRxiv and not in a journal as the research has yet to be peer-reviewed — the process in which other academics scrutinise research.

It also found that just 5 per cent of coronavirus hospitalisations were  current smokers. 

This is three times as low as the 15.5 per cent of smokers in New York City.

Tobacco use has been earmarked as a potential risk factor for coronavirus patients falling seriously ill after analysing outbreaks in China and Italy.

But the New York study is not the first to find a low number of smokers in COVID-19 hospital admissions. 

 

One team of experts from Wuhan - where the pandemic began - were mystified after finding smokers were less likely to catch the deadly virus in the first place. 

It has prompted questions that cigarette users may be at lower risk. 

Writing in the study, the authors said: 'Surprisingly, though some have speculated that high rates of smoking in China explained some of the morbidity in those patients, we did not find smoking status to be associated with increased risk of hospitalization or critical illness.' 

In a separate paper, researchers at NYU Langone Health highlighted obesity as the main driver behind patients under 60 needing hospital care.

 

The report, which was published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, looked at the records of 3,615 patients who tested positive between March 4 and April 4.

It found those with a BMI of more than 30 were almost twice as likely to be admitted to the hospital for acute and critical care. 

'Unfortunately, obesity in people [under 60] is a newly identified epidemiologic risk factor, which may contribute to increased morbidity rates experienced in the US,' the researchers wrote in the study.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.08.20057794v1

That’s crazy isn’t it? Do you think there’s any chance people would lie about being smokers to avoid being knocked down the list for a ventilator possibly? 

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9 hours ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

I think it’s probably not unreasonable to side with the professional, unspeakably hard-earned expert opinions of those people who use PPE every day, while spending their working lives literally hands on and up to the shoulders in the piss, shit, blood, phlegm, pus, tears and death of the UK population, as to how PPE is used most effectively and safely in practice, over some risible, haunted saucepan-faced fucking mediocrity, who can’t even count the number of days he’s supposed to have been in isolation with a highly-infectious disease, when he’s the actual health minister.
 

I think it’s reasonable to side with them even though Matt Hancock boasts the benefit of precisely zero real-life application or experience of his own, beyond whatever theoretical example he’s been given by other pin-headed weasels, a safe distance well, well away from the hard yards being carried out by those brave, beautiful fuckers facing the fire out in the real world.
 

I think it’s just about possible him making comments like those, even while he’s sending out healthcare workers so ill-equipped it’s akin to putting troops on the ground in a conflict zone with boots which don’t fit and missing equipment, might just be a tad offensive and the living embodiment of lions led by donkeys, let alone a bit fucking rich.
 

Still, what does a Twitter no-mark say about PPE? I’m sure the medical profession will be gratefully pinning their ears back for this profound insight into their daily lives from afar.

Asking Matt Hancock about PPE would be akin to asking Lord Melchett how useful the stick was against a machine gun fire for blackadder, George and Baldrick when going over the top. 

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20 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

How would a mobile phone mast cause a virus? Am I missing something?  If people actually thought about that question and answered it logically, people like David Icke and Eamonn Holmes wouldn't have an audience. 

 

18 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

What are masts made of? Is it even possible to set them on fire? 

I suppose you could catch virus from licking it ?

 

your second point is the question of the day how exactly are they setting fire to metal masts ? Or is that in itself a conspiracy metal you can burn with a lighter and some bar b q fluid

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Genuinely wonder how we would have managed in the war if we'd eschewed the socialist ideals of things like central planning and just left it to the markets and beancounters.

 

"The Prime Minister has phoned James Dyson personally and asked him to build 10,000 fighter planes."

 

"First shipment of 30 Dyson fighter planes expected to arrive in 1946, a Guardian source has revealed."

 

"British Tommies in El Alamain say they are having to share helmets when they go into combat, defence secretary and first lord of thingamebob Sir Matt Hancock of Sussex says one between two should be plenty and called on them to stop being wasteful."

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21 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Genuinely wonder how we would have managed in the war if we'd eschewed the socialist ideals of things like central planning and just left it to the markets and beancounters.

 

"The Prime Minister has phoned James Dyson personally and asked him to build 10,000 fighter planes."

 

"First shipment of 30 Dyson fighter planes expected to arrive in 1946, a Guardian source has revealed."

 

"British Tommies in El Alamain say they are having to share helmets when they go into combat, defence secretary and first lord of thingamebob Sir Matt Hancock of Sussex says one between two should be plenty and called on them to stop being wasteful."

 

Wasn't it the Soviet Union where soldiers infamously had to share guns?

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21 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Wasn't it the Soviet Union where soldiers infamously had to share guns?

Once they got their shit together though they were all over that shit, T-34 tanks out the ass. 

 

Communism has got many flaws, but being able to mobilise a workforce for a particular goal at rapid speed is one of its strengths. Russia went from a feudal society to putting a man in space and building some of the best fighter jets and submarines of their era in the space of a few years. 

 

One of the startling things about the last few weeks is that it's shown how much our ability to manufacture things has dissipated, we've - quite literally - had to resort to buying blag shit off the Chinese. 

 

This is, I suppose, where you see the difference between a real economy and a virtual one. When you actually need physical shit and the Visigoths are coming over the seventh hill, all the hedge fund managers and work-from-home artisan cupcake makers in the world ain't going to help you. 

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