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7 minutes ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

You know that thing about viruses weakening as they mutate?

 

Cameron-May-Johnson-Raab.

 

Presumably Priti Patel, Lee Hurst, Sol Campbell and Esther McVey are the next 4 names in the sequence.

what the fuck is this? Only Connect?

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6 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Fucking hell. 

You need to combine that with yesterday's figures, and probably Saturday's as there's a lag in reporting over weekends. Still bad, but steady at around 650 on average over those three days and not running out of control as yet.

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6 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Could end up being one of the most famous quotes of all time. Crazy. 

It definitely doesn't have the same tone of defiance as:

 

"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

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From Guardian :

 

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A single dose of antibodies drawn from the blood of Covid-19 survivors appears to have improved the symptoms of 10 patients severely ill with the disease, according to new research. As PA Media reports, the treatment, known as convalescent plasma (CP) therapy, involves using antibody-rich blood plasma of those who have recovered from coronavirus, which can neutralise the bug to fight infection.

 

Scientists in China who conducted the preliminary study said no serious adverse reactions were observed after CP transfusion. They believe the findings, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggest that CP therapy might be a safe and promising treatment for severe Covid-19 patients, and add further investigation is needed in controlled clinical trials.

But Sir Munir Pirmohamed, the president of the British Pharmacological Society, expressed caution about the findings. He said:

"This was not a randomised trial and all patients also received other treatments including antivirals such as remdesivir, which are currently in trials for Covid-19."

 

It almost reads like : blood could be used as an effective treatment, but big pharma said down with this sort of thing, can't make profit off that.

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With concerns growing about the coronavirus death toll being incomplete because of lack of testing for the living, coroners and medical examiners said being unable to test the dead compounds the issue. They said they are worried that deaths are being significantly undercounted and that as a result, the statistics used by the federal and state governments to chart the virus's spread and severity are far from reliable. Contacts of the deceased may not get the warnings they need to help keep the disease from spreading; families may be left not knowing what killed their loved ones.

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3 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

With concerns growing about the coronavirus death toll being incomplete because of lack of testing for the living, coroners and medical examiners said being unable to test the dead compounds the issue. They said they are worried that deaths are being significantly undercounted and that as a result, the statistics used by the federal and state governments to chart the virus's spread and severity are far from reliable. Contacts of the deceased may not get the warnings they need to help keep the disease from spreading; families may be left not knowing what killed their loved ones.

Known this for quite some time tbf.   It's downright disgusting how woefully under prepared we've been for this. 

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9 minutes ago, Red_or_Dead said:

Gutted to be proved wrong?!

 

 

No. Gutted that the WHO has chosen the wrong option as I think it will lead to a higher death toll. 

 

Their rationale is unscientific.  They say there is "no evidence".  Well, it's their job to find the evidence.  Face masks either help or they don't. Find the evidence and then form a conclusion based on it.  Don't just say there isn't any, it's the ultimate cop out.  

 

They admit that the disease can be transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.  That being the case, it's shocking that they haven't changed their guidance.  They're not fit for purpose.

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13 minutes ago, TK421 said:

No. Gutted that the WHO has chosen the wrong option as I think it will lead to a higher death toll. 

 

Their rationale is unscientific.  They say there is "no evidence".  Well, it's their job to find the evidence.  Face masks either help or they don't. Find the evidence and then form a conclusion based on it.  Don't just say there isn't any, it's the ultimate cop out.  

You're amassing quite a list of parties who have 'chosen the wrong option'. London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Oxford University, Imperial College, WHO -- you're just missing a few Ivy Leagues to complete your set. An accomplishment for someone who was bereft of comment on the subject until late March.

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4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

No. Gutted that the WHO has chosen the wrong option as I think it will lead to a higher death toll. 

 

Their rationale is unscientific.  They say there is "no evidence".  Well, it's their job to find the evidence.  Face masks either help or they don't. Find the evidence and then form a conclusion based on it.  Don't just say there isn't any, it's the ultimate cop out.  

 

They admit that the disease can be transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.  That being the case, it's shocking that they haven't changed their guidance.  They're not fit for purpose.


Not a huge fan of the WHO bureaucrats but there might be a bit of an imbalance in actual knowledge, expertise and experience regarding the issue between you and the World Health Organization.

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1 minute ago, SasaS said:


Not a huge fan of the WHO bureaucrats but there might be a bit of an imbalance in actual knowledge, expertise and experience regarding the issue between you and the World Health Organization.

He was doing research for a book 

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7 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

You're amassing quite a list of parties who have 'chosen the wrong option'. London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Oxford University, Imperial College, WHO -- you're just missing a few Ivy Leagues to complete your set. An accomplishment for someone who was bereft of comment on the subject until late March.

Fuck off, pro-furlough wanker. 

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