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1 hour ago, Anubis said:

Michael Rosen, children’s author, has spent a night in the ICU. Now stable in a ward so hopefully he pulls through. Always seems a good egg on Twitter.

I love the stick he gives to John Mann. 

 

I hope that the usual suspects on Twitter who've been calling him an antisemite for the past couple of months have a pause to take a long, hard look at themselves. 

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3 hours ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

I get those things may be the case mate, but they’re not worse than dying. They’re just not. In terms of this virus existing and spreading, it is what it is. It’s here now and we need to react in the best, most pragmatic way possible to stop it. In my opinion it (COVID-19) needs to be shown the greatest of respect and mitigated/avoided at all costs. Similar to how if an uncontrollable fire was burning through your neighbourhood, you wouldn’t stand in its path for fear the government were being handed a charter to force people from their homes in future non-lethal circumstances.

 

Are we woefully unprepared for it? Yep. Has the way our society and especially health service have been run down in particularly the past 10 years contributed to that? Absolutely. Is a serious period of reflection then transformation required domestically and globally, to find a better way to live with and care about what happens to one another, so people aren’t so vulnerable and greater focus is given to value and quality of life than cost? 100%.
 

Unfortunately though, at the moment we just need to stem the bleeding. However dystopian the risk of losing things we currently enjoy as staples of our normal life may be. Obviously all only my personal view. I get others have their own opinions, so apologies if I’m being self-righteous.
 

Watching the relative degradation of our health service up close under normal circumstances for a very long time and then seeing the devastating affects of this in other countries has just got to me when I think about what is highly likely-inevitable to be coming. Apart from everything else there is to consider on the human cost side, having the remarkable souls who man our NHS effectively used as cannon-fodder is turning my stomach.

Respect. Brilliant post. Terrible truth.

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7 hours ago, mattyq said:

Just heard that one of my best mates is in intensive care at the JR in Oxford. His sister says he's got 2 days to respond to treatment or it's over. He's 41 with an 10 year old daughter

 

6 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

We’ve just been told that a colleagues wife has died of it. 

 

Sorry to read this and hope there's some response from your friend matty. It's horrible to see such a short time frame for someone in that situation.

 

I follow Michael Rosen on twitter and saw him tweeting about his illness early on. He thought he had it, then was better and thought it might not have been this, then I saw a tweet from him days later describing an even worse state. At that point I feared checking back on him then saw on Guardian earlier that he's in intensive care. It's a gutter to know so many are going through this, especially where people feel better then it starts up again even worse.

 

Our governments have to be held to account properly now so that we don't ever see something like this spreading around the world so badly again with such a collective failure from them. A total mess of a response that's cost so many lives and that'll cost many thousands more before it's over.

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9 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

 

 

Haha awesome.

 

"He's the hero the UK deserves, but not the one it needs right now."

 

I always have the mindset that I'd happily have some weed as long as I'm not feeling ill (haven't smoked it for over a year I don't think.) When I first have some after a while without it though the first smoke almost always gives me a paranoid feeling for a while and I have to drink with it too so anxiety doesn't flare up too bad. So fuck knows what I'd be like if I had some now.

 

I'd definitely still smoke some now but would start by just having a couple of drags then leaving it for a while, then go back to it. The thought of smoking half a joint or more with all of this on my head + weed paranoia makes me cringe.

 

Reminds me I still have an almost full bottle of baileys and keep saying I'll have some soon but still haven't. Might get some a bit later.

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1 minute ago, Scott_M said:

When there is a vaccine, I wonder how it’ll be distributed? Like Contagion, I could genuinely see a lottery system to roll it out. 

I imagine it would be rolled out across the emergency and health services first, elderly second, then everyone else.

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The Office For National Statistics have started to weigh in on death figures.

 

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Covid-19 on 210 death certificates in England and Wales by 20 March

The ONS has published the first of its new weekly bulletin which will include all instances where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate and will include non-hospital deaths.

 

A total of 210 deaths in England and Wales that occurred up to and including 20 March (and which were registered up to 25 March) had Covid-19 mentioned on the death certificate, according to new figures from the Office for National Statistics. 

 

This compares with 170 coronavirus-related deaths reported by NHS England and Public Health Wales up to and including March 20.

 

A quick note on the difference between the figures published by the ONS and those that have been published thus far by NHS England and Public Health Wales:

 

The ONS death figures are based on the number of deaths registered in England and Wales where Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate as “deaths involving Covid-19”. The number includes all deaths, not just those in hospitals, although there is usually a delay of at least five days between a death occurring and registration. 

 

The figures published by NHS England and Public Health Wales are for deaths only among hospital patients who have tested positive for Covid-19, but include deaths that have not yet been registered.

 

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48 minutes ago, Anubis said:

I imagine it would be rolled out across the emergency and health services first, elderly second, then everyone else.

Anubis knows. 

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54 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

When there is a vaccine, I wonder how it’ll be distributed? Like Contagion, I could genuinely see a lottery system to roll it out. 

If it was the 80s it would be tories, rugby people, war veterans

.. chelsea fans..other cockneys... yorkshire folk...mancs....brummies....geordies.....miners...scottish/welsh...asians...scousers...with irish/west indians fighting it out for bottom of the ladder.

 

Because of Laura Whitmore the Irish were doing well and pulling out of the relegation zone just ahead of the Syrian refugees and the homeless but then Jimmy McClean made them the ire of middle England again who before that tweet were concentrating on the abhorrent cheek of bottom placed Scousers being champions of England when any decent human being knows the season should be voided and football should not start again until the 9th August when the new season can re-commence, so thanks to McClean, we will now get it ahead of the Irish just after it is distributed among the cross dressing, vegetarian, heroin using refugee who pisses on a union jack every morning.

 

*** all views above represent the typical views of a Daily Mail reader in London and in no way represent my views ***

 

 

 

 

 

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One for the numbers diviners on here, from WSJ live updates.

 

Latest Virus Numbers as China Admits Its Tally Excluded Asymptomatic Cases

China said for the first time that it excluded people who were infected with the novel coronavirus but haven’t shown symptoms from its national tally, as questions arise about its accounting of the infectious disease.

On Tuesday, China said there are at present 1,541 asymptomatic carriers of the coronavirus in the country. Of that group, 205 people recently returned from overseas.

Chang Jile, a top Chinese health official, said the country will—beginning Wednesday—start reporting the number of asymptomatic carriers. He said this will be done “in order to respond to society’s concern in a timely manner.”

Mr. Chang said all asymptomatic carriers will be quarantined for 14 days and released only after they are medically cleared.

In recent weeks, concerns have grown about the risk of infection spreading by asymptomatic coronavirus carriers, as the country relaxes its control measures in Wuhan city, the initial epicenter of the virus outbreak.

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