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4 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I hope you all realise that after the billions and billions the Conservatives have had to pay out here we're going to be living within our means until the year 3500.

Lucky they got a big limit rise on the nation's credit card.

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10 minutes ago, Anubis said:


I know you didn’t mean it that way, but it’s a bit unseemly to post like you’re disappointed....

Not at all.

 

Not going to say I'm delighted, as it's still 28 too many.

 

The WTF was the reaction to how low the numbers were in relation to the previous day, given the expodential growth we've seen everywhere else.

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On the number of people who’ve died, Nick Watt on Newsnight just said that the government can’t report any deaths until the family of the victim has given the go ahead. So consequently the numbers reported are not necessarily the actual number of deaths from the previous 24 hours.

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27 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

On the number of people who’ve died, Nick Watt on Newsnight just said that the government can’t report any deaths until the family of the victim has given the go ahead. So consequently the numbers reported are not necessarily the actual number of deaths from the previous 24 hours.

That's bizarre. Not naming anyone is completely understandable, but not reporting the figures is ridiculous. Unless they're just kept from the public, but released to scientific interests?

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47 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

On the number of people who’ve died, Nick Watt on Newsnight just said that the government can’t report any deaths until the family of the victim has given the go ahead. So consequently the numbers reported are not necessarily the actual number of deaths from the previous 24 hours.

Don’t believe that for a minute, they can give numbers so long as they don’t name names. There’s some serious shite getting quacked over all of this, to be expected I suppose

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28 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I believe that Nadhim Zahawi has just had a car crash interview with Maitlis on Newsnight. 

 

I'll have to watch on the old iPlayer. 

Just watched this. 

 

We're fucked. The take away points seem to be that:

 

- they've done a similar thing with ventilator capacity than they did with their NHS nurses pledge. They've claimed to have 12k ventilators. The real figure is 8k, plus 4k that don't exist, in situ, and are instead going through the "procurement process."

 

- they interviewed some experts before Zahawi. I didn't see these interviews, but they concluded that the government plans for ventilator production are entirely unrealistic. The peak of cases is expected in 2 to 3 weeks. The expert suggests that lots of the new ventilators won't be available until after this peak. 

 

- Maitlis suggested that the target of 25k tests per day in a months time is very optimistic. She backed this up by noting that in the space of just over a week the testing figures have risen from 5k a day to just 6.4k

- Zahawi was quite evasive at times. He visibly wanted to avoid giving any specific dates for testing increases or increased ventilation capacity. He tried to change the subject to points that were positive for the government such as the volunteer intake and the new Excel Centre hospital. 

- He classed Maitlis' questioning as "sniping" at the government. Maitlis took umbrage with this and said that holding the government to account isn't "sniping." 

- Maitlis questioned Zahawi on the construction of two further field hospitals in Manchester and Birmingham. Zahawi didn't deny this but said any such plans would be confirmed by Matt Hancock, not him. 

- Zahawi can turn quite a red hue when under pressure. 

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