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Further to Doctor Troy’s reality TV pitch.
 

Mid-to-late 90’s this right strange couple moved next door to my mum and dad. Used to hear them viciously arguing. Next thing he’d got himself a mistress and moved a mobile home into their back garden, where he installed her. His wife stayed in the house and this fella and his mullet used to alternate nights.
 

Could often be heard of an evening shouting from the mobile home to his wife to bring him a beer down. He looked like Wetherspoons Cunt and drove a mobility car. I never saw either woman, but am presuming he didn’t have Kate Bush and Maria Whittaker back there.

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7 hours ago, aRdja said:

Looks like the data aupports SD’s claim that seasonal flu is more dangerous than covid-19 for everyone not named Stringvest.

 

 

I think this is an indicator of the way the US will go forward after the initial lockdown, and probably us. Trump really wants the economy back on track whatever the cost; Fox and other republican mouthpieces will push this.

 

The narrative will be that everyone under 65 should go about life as normal while everyone over should isolate until it's safe to come out.

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13 minutes ago, Scott_M said:


Where’s this from please? Sounds wildly optimistic.

https://reaction.life/oxford-study-50-of-uk-population-may-be-infected-already/

 

Is the UK close to developing herd immunity? That’s the potential conclusion of an exciting study by a group of Oxford academics. The term herd immunity has been widely misused and condemned in the last few weeks, but if large numbers of Britons have developed Coronavirus and suffered very few symptoms it could – could – suggest that the death rates in the more apocalyptic modelling published last week might not come to pass.

The latest modelling produced by the group of Oxford academics indicates that the Coronavirus may already have infected as many as half of the UK population.

The Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group uses a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model”. Published today, it takes into account initial underreporting and the vulnerability of the general population to hospitalisation from respiratory illness.

The document can be found here.

The study assumed that the disease has been circulating freely since the beginning of February. Infection would then have spread through the UK population in an uncontrolled way.

The first deaths from the virus were reported at the beginning of March. The picture we are seeing in terms of death rates may reflect the rapid progress of the disease through the population in that period.

Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study, sounded a note of caution, however. The findings can only be corroborated through “large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing.”

Nonetheless, the initial conclusions are in marked contrast to the models produced by Imperial College, London which estimated that as many as half a million people could die of the disease in the UK if it circulated with no controls.

The Imperial study is credited with changing the UK government’s approach to much stricter restrictions on social mixing.

Gupta is quoted in the FT criticising the study: “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model.”

But she supports the government’s strict measures to prevent the number of cases expanding over the next month beyond the capacity of the NHS.

The pressure on the NHS is building fast. Ministers announced today that the Excel conference centre in London is being turned into an emergency “field hospital” with the help of the armed forces. It will provide 4,000 beds.

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1 hour ago, Spy Bee said:

I heard it mentioned that in Italy, as well as an ageing population, they often have 3 generations living in one house and that has lead to high infection rates of the elderly.

 

Horrible for the kids when they grow up

"What killed granny?"

"You did you little murderous bastard!"

 

This study which shows that 50% of the UK may already be infected seems to be gaining some traction.

Don’t you remember? That’s when you got your own room.

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From today's science committee questions-

 



Coronavirus experts tells MPs that NHS should now be able to cope with coronavirus numbers
In the science committee Greg Clark asks Prof Neil Ferguson why the Imperial College paper advised a change of approach.

Ferguson says two factors were important. He says the findings from Italy suggested that more coronavirus patients were needing mechanical ventilation than had previously been expected. And he said that NHS England had its own assessment of how much ventilation capacity there was.

On that basis, the paper concluded that, without a change of approach, the NHS would not be able to cope. It would have eight times more patients needing critical care beds than were available.

Ferguson says that NHS England has surged its capacity, giving it more than double the number of critical beds it had.

Q: In the light of the new measures announced this week, will the NHS be able to cope?

Ferguson says that, under the policies that were in force earlier, the NHS would still have been overwhelmed - even with the extra critical beds available.

Now, in the light of the new measures, he says he thinks in some areas intensive care units will get very close to capacity.

But over, across the nation as a whole, he says he is reasonably confident that the NHS will have the resources to copy.

Clark says people will find that “tremendously reassuring”

 

I really hope he's right.

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3 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Mudface, where is that published?

It's from the Guardian live blog- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/25/uk-coronavirus-live-news-covid-19-pmqs-boris-johnson-parliament-to-close-early-for-easter-recess?page=with:block-5e7b32428f08af215f6fad1a#block-5e7b32428f08af215f6fad1a

 

They also have a live feed from the committee, as do the BBC on iPlayer.

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