Coronavirus

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

That's what Italians said, but the German institute head replied that this would not be a statistically important difference.

 

Hmm. That's an odd comment given that (almost) everyone who has been killed has had a pre-existing condition, it would surely make a sizeable difference. All hypothetical of course, as I've not seen any confirmation that this is what has been happening.

[SasaS]

9 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Hmm. That's an odd comment given that (almost) everyone who has been killed has had a pre-existing condition, it would surely make a sizeable difference. All hypothetical of course, as I've not seen any confirmation that this is what has been happening.

No, the Italian guy said Germans are either not testing people who died of something else or if they are, they are not listing them as coronavirus death even if they were positive. The German guy said the number of such cases is relatively small and not statistically very significant. Germans wouldn't have any deaths if they classified people only by preexisting condition, since most of them have it.

Far more logical explanation, at the moment, seems to be the difference between actual and registered cases.

[Anubis]

London's Excel Centre being converted into an emergency hospital.

 

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London’s Excel conference centre will become an emergency hospital treating coronavirus patients “within days” with 500 beds initially made available at what will be the first of several crisis facilities dotted around the UK.

 

The cavernous 100,000 square metre Docklands site is currently being converted in a high speed operation involving military planners and personnel and its capacity will rise quickly from the initial 500 beds, defence sources added.

 

It to deal with the expected surge in coronavirus patients because it is expected that London’s hospitals and their existing intensive care beds will soon be overflowing as patients with severe breathing difficulties are treated.

 

Defence sources added there would be “more than one” emergency hospital built around the UK, although London is first because the rate of coronavirus infections is considered to be running 1.5 to 2.5 weeks ahead. “We will service and support the whole of the United Kingdom,” a source added.

 

[Scott_M]

So, if somebody who dies in Germany has COVID19 and lung cancer, the official reason for death would be lung cancer?

[Anubis]

 

 

[Elite]

Just now, Scott_M said:

So, if somebody who dies in Germany has COVID19 and lung cancer, the official reason for death would be lung cancer?

Looks that way. They are being very sneaky with the numbers for some reason.

[Dr Nowt]

2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

London's Excel Centre being converted into an emergency hospital.

 

 

At least we know where Spy Bee’s 500 new beds order came from then!

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, Elite said:

Looks that way. They are being very sneaky with the numbers for some reason.

Typical Germans.

[Anubis]

Brexit means Brexit.

 

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[SasaS]

5 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

So, if somebody who dies in Germany has COVID19 and lung cancer, the official reason for death would be lung cancer?

 

No, unless he actually died of cancer, or a heart attack and also tested positive, which they said is a very small number. Why would they deliberately hide the number of deaths?

[Oh Buoy]

5 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Brexit means Brexit.

 

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[Barrington Womble]

18 minutes ago, SasaS said:

No, the Italian guy said Germans are either not testing people who died of something else or if they are, they are not listing them as coronavirus death even if they were positive. The German guy said the number of such cases is relatively small and not statistically very significant. Germans wouldn't have any deaths if they classified people only by preexisting condition, since most of them have it.

Far more logical explanation, at the moment, seems to be the difference between actual and registered cases.

To be fair when you're only dealing with a small number of hundred deaths, a handful is statistically significant. 

[Spy Bee]

[Spy Bee]

NHS Supply Chain can't get the 500 beds they want

 

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, Spy Bee said:

If people lose their jobs over there though, they are genuinely fucked as they'll lose their health care with it. There's almost an element of truth in what he says, because their system starts from such a shit position.

[Strontium]

Have they tried DFS? Loads of beds in there, and always on sale.

[easytoslip]

44 minutes ago, Anubis said:

In the spirit of TLW's locked down community here is some porn for Easytoslip.

 

Phwoar 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

1 hour ago, easytoslip said:

He's a mate, so I won't do that, know what you mean though, I don't think he meant it as some form of entertainment. 

I'd question the friendship or intellect of anyone who thinks that is something worth watching or sharing.

[Spy Bee]

7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Have they tried DFS? Loads of beds in there, and always on sale.

Not that funny tbh.

[SasaS]

6 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

To be fair when you're only dealing with a small number of hundred deaths, a handful is statistically significant. 

 

Well, not really. Even if the unreported deaths were the same number as reported deaths (which the Germans say is far from), over a hundred, the difference between the death rate in Germany (and a host of other countries) and Italy and Spain would still remain huge. 

[Anubis]

17 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

NHS Supply Chain can't get the 500 beds they want

 

Can't they just buy off a group of small suppliers such as yourselves, or is it economies of scale?

[TheBitch]

3 hours ago, cloggypop said:

I've done two weeks now. It's been extended here until at least June 1st already. 

 

At least we have access to all the films, telly, music, games and books. 

 

Going to be a cheap spring. 

Got enough green in?

[Spy Bee]

4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Can't they just buy off a group of small suppliers such as yourselves, or is it economies of scale?

Smaller suppliers don't carry much kit. The stuff you carry you envisage needing for your existing customers. I'm currently making loads of phone calls and emailing China trying to course anything, but demand is outstripping supply I think.

 

[Anubis]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/24/uk-police-chiefs-coronavirus-could-bring-out-worst-in-humanity

 

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Police chiefs have warned the coronavirus pandemic could “bring out the worst in humanity” after a spate of opportunistic crimes hindered efforts to control the crisis.

 

The theft of oxygen canisters from a hospital, the puncturing of ambulance tyres and the raiding of food banks by thieves were among the “worrying isolated incidents” in recent days raised by the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC).

 

Although a spokesperson for the organisation said it had yet to notice any patterns in the types of crimes being reported, they warned that some could exploit the chaos amid the coronavirus lockdown.

 

“Crises like this bring out some of the best but sadly also the worst in humanity and there will be individuals who seek to exploit the pandemic,” the spokesperson said. “That’s why it’s essential the police have the resources and the powers to crack down on shameless, opportunistic crimes like this.”

 

The comments by the NPCC came as National Trading Standards was forced to issue a warning to the public after reports of scams and counterfeit goods related to Covid-19.

 

Among the scams identified are criminals targeting older people at their homes and offering to do their shopping, but taking the money without returning, as well as people selling fake – and potentially dangerous – sanitisers, face masks and swabbing kits on doorsteps and online.

 

As public guidance on physical distancing was strengthened over the last few days a series of opportunistic incidents were reported across the country.

 

In Bristol, two delivery vans were destroyed in arson attacks outside an Iceland store in Southmead on Monday night. Richard Walker, the food retailer’s managing director, said: “At a time when home delivery is literally a lifeline for some vulnerable people, this is sickening.”

 

In a statement, Iceland said the disturbances began at about 9.30pm, with police riot vans called out. “Youths threw missiles at the police as they tried to disperse them,” it said. “Later in the evening the two home delivery vans parked outside our Southmead store were set alight and the fire brigade attended to put out the fire.”

 

The retailer warned that the vans would both have to be written off at a time when its delivery fleet was running at full capacity.

 

In the early hours on Saturday, three men stole oxygen and nitrous oxide canisters after breaking into a locked unit at a delivery loading area of Withington community hospital, south Manchester.

 

On Sunday morning, paramedics arrived at a vehicle preparation centre in Ramsgate, Kent, to find holes had been drilled into the tyres of six ambulances. The vehicles were taken off the road as the county’s ambulance service announced it was under significant pressure during the pandemic. Kent police are investigating the incident, which they described as “highly irresponsible”.

 

Later the same day, a West Yorkshire police officer claimed on Twitter that she and her colleagues had been faced with crowds “spitting on the floor and coughing at us”, as well as being pelted with eggs, as they responded to a serious incident.

 

The force did not confirm the reports, but said the post had been written by a serving officer.

 

Three teenagers were also arrested on Friday after an elderly couple were allegedly coughed at and assaulted in Hertfordshire.

 

On Thursday, a food bank in Knottingley, West Yorkshire, was forced to close after thieves raided a storage container for donations including sanitary products and toilet rolls.

 

Although the Trussell Trust-led project had already decided to reduce its service because older volunteers were classed as being at higher risk of contracting the virus, the food bank’s manager, Janet Burns, said the incident had “forced our hand” because stockpiling restrictions meant it could not replace the items.

 

 

[cloggypop]

3 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Got enough green in?

Haven't smoked it in years. Might start on hash again if it gets too dull.