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5 hours ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Never say no mate. Jürgen has bought into the ethos of the Club and its fans big time. He's found a home and people who mirror image his own way of life. When you listen to him being interviewed, especially in German, he comes across as someone who is loving every minute of his job and knows exactly how to relax, something he wasn't afforded at both Mainz 05 and especially Borussia Dortmund. He's just extended his contract which wasn't in his original plans, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him extend that further. We all know how football can change these days though, so I'm just going to enjoy the ride.


One thing I think is interesting is that if - and it’s still a big if as far as I’m concerned - we win the league this season, Klopp will have taken longer than any manager since Ferguson to win his first English title, and was the longest serving manager from any country to win his first European Cup with a club since him too.
 

Increasingly managers have assumed the role of coaching impact subs; they win the big ones immediately, or they never do.

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3 minutes ago, TheDrowningMan said:


One thing I think is interesting is that if - and it’s still a big if as far as I’m concerned - we win the league this season, Klopp will have taken longer than any manager since Ferguson to win his first English title, and was the longest serving manager from any country to win his first European Cup with a club since him too.
 

Increasingly managers have assumed the role of coaching impact subs; they win the big ones immediately, or they never do.

 

What on earth are you on about? 

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Just now, Pistonbroke said:

 

What on earth are you on about? 

In response to you saying how Klopp has bought into the ethos of the club - How rare it is that a manager really 'builds' a team in the modern game and becomes progressively more successful. They tend come in for a season or two, do a job and leave. At the top end, people like Guardiola or, at one point, Mourinho, get given buckets of cash and win a lot for three years and then leave.

 

It’s a real throwback to have someone who, over a four to five year period, builds a big club up to the level of success we're enjoying at the moment. 

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4 minutes ago, TheDrowningMan said:

In response to you saying how Klopp has bought into the ethos of the club - How rare it is that a manager really 'builds' a team in the modern game and becomes progressively more successful. They tend come in for a season or two, do a job and leave. At the top end, people like Guardiola or, at one point, Mourinho, get given buckets of cash and win a lot for three years and then leave.

 

It’s a real throwback to have someone who, over a four to five year period, builds a big club up to the level of success we're enjoying at the moment. 

 

With you now, although your initial post didn't really allude to what you have now posted. I think a lot of managers these days are forced out due to deluded fans, impatient owners and a lot of the time through player power within dressing rooms when so called big money players try to shift the blame onto managers rather than looking at their own worth. Klopp surrounds himself with players that he thinks will do exactly the job he wants them to do, both on and off the pitch, then lets them get on with it. He knows from the off that they fit his style of play and football ethos. I think so far he's been pretty much spot on with the choices he has made, a few haven't turned out, but in General he has got it right and in a lot of cases for a pittance, when you look at what certain players cost. It has also rubbed off on players already at the club, especially the likes of TAA. He's in a marginal group of managers who can do this, especially in the modern game. I'm sure if we were to have a poor season a lot of our fans would give him time to reverse fortunes, which wouldn't happen at the majority of clubs, and I think Jürgen knows this. It really is a perfect match and I just hope it goes on for as long as possible. 

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Some really strange reactions to this so far.

 

As soon as Gerrard announced he was going to become a manager it was inevitable he would be touted as a future Liverpool manager and that is something that isn't going to go away. 

 

When asked about he has been honest and said that he would like to do the job at some point, but also he wants Klopp to be at the club as long as possible because he's doing such a great job. He's not agitating for the job here, he's answering a question honestly. Would anybody really believe him if he said, I want to become a football manager, but I never want to manage Liverpool?

 

Will he be good enough manager to be Liverpool manager? Nobody knows for sure. One thing that's clear though is at the moment we have got excellent people in charge across the board. As much as Klopp is doing an excellent job here, I believe that a lot of good managers would have been able to flourish here based on the transfers we've made, and the way the club has been run. Obviously Klopp may have been a decisive factor for some players coming here or not and is the perfect manager for us, but when he does decide to go we can still continue to be successful I think, as long as all the other things are still in place.

 

I agree with the comment that Gerrard taking on the Rangers job was a good move. He needs to be managing teams that are expected to win every week and find a way to do that. There is no point going to a club like Bournemouth or West Ham or the type of club that finishes mid table because he'll end up turning in to the next Moyes or Woy, developing a style of football that gets you enough points to win some games but not enough to win titles!

 

I understand the comparisons to Souness and people being worried of history repeating itself, but football has changed a lot since then. Gerrard won't run in to the same problems Souness had.

 

For me personally I would like to see Gerrard get the job eventually and I would like to see him lift the league title as a manager, if only to ram it down the throats of all those twats that constantly go on about the likes of Phil Jones etc having more league medals than Gerrard.        

 

 

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Klopp has already said the ideal would be for Gerrard to replace him. As long as Gerrard keeps doing what he's doing, there's pretty much no doubt he'll manage us at some point. Unless the owners didn't want him. Imagine if that happened... Oooooooooof.

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35 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I hope Gerrard never manages this club. 

Because of his Rangers connection or because you don't want to see your heroes fail? Either way stop being such a fanny!

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4 minutes ago, Remmie said:

Because of his Rangers connection or because you don't want to see your heroes fail? Either way stop being such a fanny!

Fuck him. 

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12 hours ago, The Guest said:

Couldn’t disagree more with this.  Football isn’t like it used to be.  Going into management you’ve basically got two possibilities in the top leagues now.  You go to a club where you can’t win anything unless by some complete one off fluke.  He’d be massively criticised for not winning anything then if Liverpool offered him the job.  Even though all the trophies are generally swept up by the big clubs and your best players tend to get sold from underneath you every season or so.  The other option is you get lucky and one of the big clubs takes a chance on you.  It’s too early in your career but you take it anyway because the probability is that you won’t have the player reputation to take it in 5-10 years when you probably would be ready and you fail for that reason.

 

He’s taken a job where there is immense pressure from the fans.  It clearly a challenge because he’s needed to build a team to compete with Celtic who’ve basically won everything for years now.  If he’d have taken the Celtic job I doubt it would have prepared him at all.  They have more money but it’s not as if they’re so far from rangers that it’s an impossible job. 

Like Graeme Souness.

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I find the context of this piece and the quotes a bit weird - it's as if the future job is already on offer and a matter of course.

 

Is there some sort of tacit "offical" assurance of this happening one day?

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

I find the context of this piece and the quotes a bit weird - it's as if the future job is already on offer and a matter of course.

 

Is there some sort of tacit "offical" assurance of this happening one day?

 

 

 

 

I actually thought the "will" in the headline was a little unfair on Stevie. He wasn't quite as presumptuous as it implies.

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2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

I actually thought the "will" in the headline was a little unfair on Stevie. He wasn't quite as presumptuous as it implies.

 

I'd have thought it was a topic to be altogether avoided at this point in time - given where both he and especially the club are at right now.

 

 

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Just now, skaro said:

 

I'd have thought it was a topic to be altogether avoided at this point in time - given where both he and especially the club are at right now.

 

 

Well, quite. 

 

Anyway, he's got his own league title to win.

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5 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

Some really strange reactions to this so far.

 

As soon as Gerrard announced he was going to become a manager it was inevitable he would be touted as a future Liverpool manager and that is something that isn't going to go away. 

 

When asked about he has been honest and said that he would like to do the job at some point, but also he wants Klopp to be at the club as long as possible because he's doing such a great job. He's not agitating for the job here, he's answering a question honestly. Would anybody really believe him if he said, I want to become a football manager, but I never want to manage Liverpool?

 

Will he be good enough manager to be Liverpool manager? Nobody knows for sure. One thing that's clear though is at the moment we have got excellent people in charge across the board. As much as Klopp is doing an excellent job here, I believe that a lot of good managers would have been able to flourish here based on the transfers we've made, and the way the club has been run. Obviously Klopp may have been a decisive factor for some players coming here or not and is the perfect manager for us, but when he does decide to go we can still continue to be successful I think, as long as all the other things are still in place.

 

I agree with the comment that Gerrard taking on the Rangers job was a good move. He needs to be managing teams that are expected to win every week and find a way to do that. There is no point going to a club like Bournemouth or West Ham or the type of club that finishes mid table because he'll end up turning in to the next Moyes or Woy, developing a style of football that gets you enough points to win some games but not enough to win titles!

 

I understand the comparisons to Souness and people being worried of history repeating itself, but football has changed a lot since then. Gerrard won't run in to the same problems Souness had.

 

For me personally I would like to see Gerrard get the job eventually and I would like to see him lift the league title as a manager, if only to ram it down the throats of all those twats that constantly go on about the likes of Phil Jones etc having more league medals than Gerrard.        

 

 


I think our success is mainly down to Klopp and the whole staff he’s brought in, including coaches, the fitness & medical people, the nutrition specialists. Mostly Klopp himself.

 

Transfers are a vital part surely, but still a very overrated factor in my opinion. If Arsenal or United had signed the same players they’d still be nowhere near the level we’re at now.

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