Flamengo (N) World Club Cup Final - 21/12/19 - 17:30

[Creator Supreme]

3 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

What the fuck's going on there in Sadio's shorts!? Looks like he's really made up!

He's just seen Angie's bap pic on the Everton thread!

[Dr Nowt]

[Chairman Meow]

4 minutes ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

Why are they celebrating in a multi story car park?

[Butch]

[Einch]

Best in the world. 

[Scrump]

14 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

Bought the bird a bottle of champagne for her 40th in September and she’s never opened it as “I’m not really a fan of champagne and it should be drank on a special occasion”. 
 

I’m sure she’ll understand when she gets in from her Christmas do later to find I’ve necked it, finished the cider and now on her rum!

Has she noticed yet?

[Mudface]

19 minutes ago, Butch said:

They spelled 'Totty' wrong.

[Guest]

58 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

What the fuck's going on there in Sadio's shorts!? Looks like he's really made up!

I think you'll find that's Fabinha in his pocket.

[The Golden Eel]

It was pretty apathetic towards it until we started playing the matches then the reality kicks in and we need to be winning it. 

 

It would have been a real kick in the balls to go out there, sacrifice the League Cup, put the players through the travel and mental and physical exertions and then come back without the trophy. 

 

Also glad we won so we don't have pages and pages of crazy conspiracy shite that was bubbling up at one point. 

 

I see Salah got an award for player of the tournament. Bit odd. 

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

The Alibaba Cloud Award.

 

The only way is down from there. 

[Guest Alex_K]

19 minutes ago, DimReaper said:

It was pretty apathetic towards it until we started playing the matches then the reality kicks in and we need to be winning it. 

 

It would have been a real kick in the balls to go out there, sacrifice the League Cup, put the players through the travel and mental and physical exertions and then come back without the trophy. 

 

Also glad we won so we don't have pages and pages of crazy conspiracy shite that was bubbling up at one point. 

 

I see Salah got an award for player of the tournament. Bit odd. 

 

 

The League Cup needs to stop being seen as a sacrifice. The esteem in which this tournament is held by the other continents partaking puts this in another stratosphere.

[El Rojo]

20 minutes ago, DimReaper said:

It was pretty apathetic towards it until we started playing the matches then the reality kicks in and we need to be winning it. 

 

It would have been a real kick in the balls to go out there, sacrifice the League Cup, put the players through the travel and mental and physical exertions and then come back without the trophy. 

 

Also glad we won so we don't have pages and pages of crazy conspiracy shite that was bubbling up at one point. 

 

I see Salah got an award for player of the tournament. Bit odd. 

 

 

Agree that the conspiracy stuff is embarrassing. There are threads devoted to similar ridiculousness from Everton and Man City fans on here. 

[Bad Red Bull]

26 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

I think you'll find that's Fabinha in his pocket.

Fabinha or rafinha?

[dockers_strike]

Despite BBC's pathetic coverage, 6.6m people watch the game on tv with another 1m via iPlayer.

[3 Stacks]

17 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

The League Cup needs to stop being seen as a sacrifice. The esteem in which this tournament is held by the other continents partaking puts this in another stratosphere.

This is what Klopp said about it. Klopp is often right, and even so, he's almost never been more right on a subject than on this one. 

 

“We are playing against a side from a country and continent where this competition means everything to everyone and, in England, we have to explain why we come here. That’s how Europe looks at the world, that we are the centre of attention.

“Flamengo got sent here from their country with a clear order: win it and come back as heroes. We got told: stay at home and play the Carabao Cup."

[scudger99]

3 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

This is what Klopp said about it. Klopp is often right, and even so, he's almost never been more right on a subject than on this one. 

 

“We are playing against a side from a country and continent where this competition means everything to everyone and, in England, we have to explain why we come here. That’s how Europe looks at the world, that we are the centre of attention.

“Flamengo got sent here from their country with a clear order: win it and come back as heroes. We got told: stay at home and play the Carabao Cup."

By who, I wonder ?

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I personally think that any of the teams who are playing in the CL or EL should have the choice of not participating in the league Cup. That way nobody can have a good whinge about them playing weakened teams and not taking it seriously. Let's be honest, if given that choice the majority would pull out of the competition. 

[3 Stacks]

1 minute ago, scudger99 said:

By who, I wonder ?

I think he just means in general. The English media was always going to make a big deal out of us sending the kids out at Villa Park and, through no fault of our own, prioritizing a competition that wasn't English. 

[Captain Turdseye]

1 minute ago, Pistonbroke said:

I personally think that any of the teams who are playing in the CL or EL should have the choice of not participating in the league Cup. That way nobody can have a good whinge about them playing weakened teams and not taking it seriously. Let's be honest, if given that choice the majority would pull out of the competition. 

 

I don’t think they would. It’s a chance for fringe players to get minutes, which is a positive thing. Also if you get a few easy draws then it’s a day at Wembley for the fans. 

[aws]

Drop the double semi final and it's a decent competition. Not like winning the top club competition in the world, mind. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Just now, Captain Turdseye said:

 

I don’t think they would. It’s a chance for fringe players to get minutes, which is a positive thing. Also if you get a few easy draws then it’s a day at Wembley for the fans. 

 

I think you'd be in for a surprise at how many would pull out John. They just play way too many games and they normally blood their youngsters in the F.A Cup as well, if the draw is favourable. 

[The Golden Eel]

26 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

The League Cup needs to stop being seen as a sacrifice. The esteem in which this tournament is held by the other continents partaking puts this in another stratosphere.

I agree that this is a much more worthwhile competition to win, for various reasons. We were forced to sacrifice the League Cup though. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Just now, aws said:

Drop the double semi final and it's a decent competition. Not like winning the top club competition in the world, mind. 

 

That's happening as of next season, so at least one positive change. 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Bad Red Bull said:

Fabinha or rafinha?

Probably both.

[Ne Moe Imya]

The problem with the Carabao Cup is that, now and for the foreseeable future, the second-best result is going to be to go out in the first round.

 

At least if you make the semifinal of the FA Cup you can spin that as something, especially for the mid-table clubs. "We had a decent season," you can imagine someone at West Ham or Everton saying. "Finished eighth in the league and got to the semifinal of the FA Cup."

 

You cannot imagine anyone saying that about the Carabao Cup. Either you win it, or it's totally pointless.