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1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

I’m not confident that Starmer is electable in the current political climate in the UK for the following reasons; He’s an ardent remainer, he resides in London, he’s a member of Labour Friends of Palestine.

Brexit is done. Boris lives in London yet handed Corbyn his arse in the Northern seats even though he hid away for most of the campaign. The next GE is 5 years away. What are you wittering about? 

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4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Brexit is done. Boris lives in London yet handed Corbyn his arse in the Northern seats even though he hid away for most of the campaign. The next GE is 5 years away. What are you wittering about? 

An ardent remainer in power can try and reverse brexit can't they? 5 years down the line? Plus being a member of Labour Friends of Palestine means that he will get lies peddled about him daily accusing him of all sorts. 

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Just now, skend04 said:

Brexit is done. Boris lives in London yet handed Corbyn his arse in the Northern seats even though he hid away for most of the campaign. The next GE is 5 years away. What are you wittering about? 

Brexit is nowhere near done. Didn’t your #FBPE lot keep bleating on and on during, the election campaign that Tories’ “Get Brexit Done!” slogan was a sham?

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1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

An ardent remained in power can try and reverse brexit can't they? 5 years down the line? Plus being a member of Labour Friends of Palestine means that he will get lies peddled about him daily accusing him of all sorts. 

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labour-leadership-what-jess-phillips-has-said-about-campaigning-to-rejoin-the-eu-after-brexit-1356232

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1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

Brexit is nowhere near done. Didn’t your #FBPE lot keep bleating on and on during, the election campaign that Tories’ “Get Brexit Done!” slogan was a sham?

Once again, I'm not #FBPE. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, it's pretty weird. As for Brexit not being done, well I think we are entering the transition period in 15 days and leaving December this year, all within the first year of the 5 Corbyn and his amateurish mates handed to the Tories. It's about as done as can be.

 

So, unlike your player observations on the FF can you provide a bit more insight than "he's a remainer". It's just nonsense when the country will have moved on to the next crisis by the time the next election rolls round.

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11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

An ardent remained in power can try and reverse brexit can't they? 5 years down the line? Plus being a member of Labour Friends of Palestine means that he will get lies peddled about him daily accusing him of all sorts. 

Honestly, this Friends of Palestine thing isn't the reason Corbyn lost the election, he was seen as a shit leader. As for reversing Brexit, you'd have to see where the country is 3/4 years into a life outside the EU project, which could see jobs being lost left, right and centre, before deciding what the strategy would be for the next election. As far as I'm aware not one person apart from Philips has mentioned rejoining being an option.

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1 minute ago, Creator Supreme said:

Thanks for reminding me why I've got you on ignore, much obliged!

Haha, is this how you ignore people on here? By reading and replying to their posts? I've been doing it wrong all this time.

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12 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Once again, I'm not #FBPE. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, it's pretty weird. As for Brexit not being done, well I think we are entering the transition period in 15 days and leaving December this year, all within the first year of the 5 Corbyn and his amateurish mates handed to the Tories. It's about as done as can be.

 

So, unlike your player observations on the FF can you provide a bit more insight than "he's a remainer". It's just nonsense when the country will have moved on to the next crisis by the time the next election rolls round.

It’d be extremely difficult to win back those Workington Men votes of the Party is led by a remainer. The worst thing Jeremy ever did was to humour those undemocratic People Votes/Final Say imbeciles. The focus should always have been on trying to minimise the damage of Brexit as opposed to trying reverse the result of the referendum. 

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3 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Yes. As long as we ignore what Galloway is, what he does, what he did, what he’s likely to do it’s very likely the establishment will be terrified by the splitting of the Labour vote.  

 

I'm not really focusing on what we do at all, am thinking more about the potential he and his party have of drawing off left wing voters from Labour. On the party site they say things like this, which in our current climate could be powerful if repeated enough to a wide audience when Labour are in their current state.

 

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Under Corbyn, rather than a flourishing of left social democracy we are witnessing its final meltdown. Ken Livingstone was forced to resign, Chris Williamson was repeatedly and unconstitutionally deselected, there was no way back for left-wingers like George Galloway, and even Mr Corbyn himself was harangued as an antisemite in a disgraceful campaign of Goebbelsian fiction. Far from fighting for principles, Labour’s most ‘left-wing’ leader ever, capitulated. One U-turn would never be enough for the ruling class, and before much time had passed his long-held positions of principle on everything from Trident to Nato to EU membership had been given up.

The Workers Party is unequivocally committed to class politics. Though the fashion of the times is to divide working people along identity lines, we seek to unite them, based on their shared class interest. It is not ‘homophobic’ or ‘racist’ for socialists to focus their attention on those contradictions that concern the whole working class in its struggle for socialism. While being totally opposed to discrimination on grounds of race, sex or sexual proclivity, we declare that obsession with identity politics, including sexual politics, divides the working class.

 

 

https://workerspartybritain.org/about/

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1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

It’d be extremely difficult to win back those Workington Men votes of the Party is led by a remainer. The worst thing Jeremy ever did was to humour those undemocratic People Votes/Final Say imbeciles. The focus should always have been on trying to minimise the damage of Brexit as opposed to trying reverse the result of the referendum. 

 

What's undemocratic about a democratic vote?

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40 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

More recent votes superseding the results of earlier votes is generally how democracy works.

Didn’t realise that they implemented the result of the first referendum.

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16 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Well, it wouldn't be right to implement something without getting public confirmation that that was what everyone wanted, would it.

 

Oh.

 

I'm not sure you'd be the same if we voted to remain, years passed with parliament arguing, then we had another vote on what type of remain to choose with an option to leave.

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15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I'm not sure you'd be the same if we voted to remain, years passed with parliament arguing, then we had another vote on what type of remain to choose with an option to leave.

 

There is only one type of status quo. Clue is in the name "status quo".

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