The New Leader of the Labour Party

[Numero Veinticinco]

Corbyn is on his way out, so we probably need a new thread. Who should the new leader of Labour be, what policies should they put forward if they want to win? What really important, is it even policy or is it just a friendly media face and populist sound bites? 

[moof]

Yanis Varoufakis 

[cloggypop]

Just let Rupert Murdoch choose. 

[moof]

Just now, cloggypop said:

Just let Rupert Murdoch choose. 

Yep, that’s how you win 

[moof]

3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Corbyn is on his way out, so we probably need a new thread. Who should the new leader of Labour be, what policies should they put forward if they want to win? What really important, is it even policy or is it just a friendly media face and populist sound bites? 

Number one important thing is building class consciousness. We have to stop people voting like turkeys for Christmas 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

It'd have to be between Starmer and Rayner for me. 

 

That's with the caveat that I'm still not in the mood to discuss it and that, whatever happens, they'll still be ravaged by the press unless they abandon their own and the parties principles. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

But, definitely not Jess Phillips. No. Never. Fuck that. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I’m thinking that Labour needs somebody who meet the following criteria if they stand a chance of winning.

 

Has a likability factor. 

Not loads of old-fashioned lefty baggage. 
Understand and utilise social media to convince people outside of standard media. 

Is palatable to the City/business. 

Pragmatic with policies and with whom/when they pick fights. 

Has a dirty side so when they fight they win. 

Understand the tactics of a fight in politics. 

Good oratory skills. 
More to follow. 

 

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

On 11/09/2019 at 22:08, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Clive Lewis is alright for me, Clive. No shame in his recent resignation over Brexit either for me, Clive. That said, the ‘for me, Clive’ shit would get boring pretty quickly for me, Clive. 

 

Give it Clivey. 

[Jairzinho]

- 40-55 years old.

- Great orator.

- Bit of a cunt.

- From the north.

- Quick witted.

- Will ensure policies benefit small businesses, and hammer home the message that the public sector isn't the enemy. Amazon is.

- Put forward left wing policies that are clearly popular re nationalisation. Take your lead from what the public tell you.

- Lie about your foreign policy position until you're in government. 

- Similarly, lie about how much respect you have for the queen.

- Target winning back the north of England. The liberal middle class in London etc, are more likely to come along for the ride than the other way round.

- Create solid partnerships with The Greens, and anyone else who isn't a complete cunt. Including the Lib Dems if, as I suspect, they're going to be a bit more Charles Kennedy and a little less Charles Manson.

- Play dirty if necessary.

- Stay on message.

 

 

[Lee909]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’m thinking that Labour needs somebody who meet the following criteria if they stand a chance of winning.

 

Has a likability factor. 

Not loads of old-fashioned lefty baggage. 
Understand and utilise social media to convince people outside of standard media. 

Is palatable to the City/business. 

Pragmatic with policies and with whom/when they pick fights. 

Has a dirty side so when they fight they win. 

Understand the tactics of a fight in politics. 

Good oratory skills. 
More to follow. 

 

 

 

Its going to have to be someone from Blairs group I think. I despise the idea of letting them wankers turn everything back towards the middle ground. 

 

There more palatable than the tories but that's not saying much. The issue will be does that turn the young vote away. 

 

I saw a thing yesterday

If the voters were all between 18-24 the tories would not have won a seat

 

 Between 25-40 closer but Labour majority 

 

And it swung after that. 

 

 

It would potentially a fucking disaster to lose the young voters but need to swing the middle ground

[Captain Turdseye]

Just bunged a tenner on Clive at 30/1. 

[The Golden Eel]

6 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Just bunged a tenner on Clive at 30/1. 

Not for me 

[Carvalho Diablo]

I would have said  Laura Pidcock.

[TheHowieLama]

The New Leader of the Labour Party

 

Sounds like a shit emo band name

[Creator Supreme]

Angela Rayner

[Captain Turdseye]

Just now, Creator Supreme said:

Angela Rayner

 

I don’t know if this country will ever be ready to elect a young woman with a northern accent as Prime Minister. 

[Tony Moanero]

47 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Just let Rupert Murdoch choose. 

 

“The S** Backs Blair”

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/1997/mar/18/past.roygreenslade

[Mook]

They might as well have Donald Duck for all it matters.

 

England is a tory country, those cunts could open up concentration camps in every town & they'd still piss all over Labour in a General Election.

[Numero Veinticinco]

14 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Its going to have to be someone from Blairs group I think. I despise the idea of letting them wankers turn everything back towards the middle ground. 

 

There more palatable than the tories but that's not saying much. The issue will be does that turn the young vote away. 

 

I saw a thing yesterday

If the voters were all between 18-24 the tories would not have won a seat

 

 Between 25-40 closer but Labour majority 

 

And it swung after that. 

 

 

It would potentially a fucking disaster to lose the young voters but need to swing the middle ground

Any swing is really just academic, inside the Labour Party that aren’t actually getting any policies enacted. I think you’re right about not losing the young voters, but I think a lot of that comes from ideas of fairness and liberty rather than then really caring too much about the way the City is taxed or how high business rates are. I want a progressive, liberal Labour Party who create solid policies from a social democratic platform. 
 

It’s dirty, but the left need to learn how and be willing to play the system and the political game. Need to tickle Murdoch’s nuts? Fine, do it. Then when you’re in power, you cut them off. 

[Jairzinho]

Surely that cunt is going to die soon anyway.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

11 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

I would have said  Laura Pidcock.

 

She's one of the favourites mate, but will labour members back a woman? I have my doubts. 

[Trumo]

2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

I don’t know if this country will ever be ready to elect a young woman with a northern accent as Prime Minister. 

 

She's not exactly Scary Spice from Bo Selecta in that regard.

[Captain Turdseye]

Just now, Pistonbroke said:

 

She's one of the favourites mate, but will labour members back a woman? I have my doubts. 

 

She’s got no chance mate. I can guarantee it. 100%. 

[Strontium]

Just now, Pistonbroke said:

She's one of the favourites mate, but will labour members back a woman? I have my doubts. 

 

She lost her seat, which makes that a non-starter.