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The New Leader of the Labour Party


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12 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Once again, I'm not #FBPE. I'm not sure why you keep repeating this, it's pretty weird. As for Brexit not being done, well I think we are entering the transition period in 15 days and leaving December this year, all within the first year of the 5 Corbyn and his amateurish mates handed to the Tories. It's about as done as can be.

 

So, unlike your player observations on the FF can you provide a bit more insight than "he's a remainer". It's just nonsense when the country will have moved on to the next crisis by the time the next election rolls round.

It’d be extremely difficult to win back those Workington Men votes of the Party is led by a remainer. The worst thing Jeremy ever did was to humour those undemocratic People Votes/Final Say imbeciles. The focus should always have been on trying to minimise the damage of Brexit as opposed to trying reverse the result of the referendum. 

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3 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Yes. As long as we ignore what Galloway is, what he does, what he did, what he’s likely to do it’s very likely the establishment will be terrified by the splitting of the Labour vote.  

 

I'm not really focusing on what we do at all, am thinking more about the potential he and his party have of drawing off left wing voters from Labour. On the party site they say things like this, which in our current climate could be powerful if repeated enough to a wide audience when Labour are in their current state.

 

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Under Corbyn, rather than a flourishing of left social democracy we are witnessing its final meltdown. Ken Livingstone was forced to resign, Chris Williamson was repeatedly and unconstitutionally deselected, there was no way back for left-wingers like George Galloway, and even Mr Corbyn himself was harangued as an antisemite in a disgraceful campaign of Goebbelsian fiction. Far from fighting for principles, Labour’s most ‘left-wing’ leader ever, capitulated. One U-turn would never be enough for the ruling class, and before much time had passed his long-held positions of principle on everything from Trident to Nato to EU membership had been given up.

The Workers Party is unequivocally committed to class politics. Though the fashion of the times is to divide working people along identity lines, we seek to unite them, based on their shared class interest. It is not ‘homophobic’ or ‘racist’ for socialists to focus their attention on those contradictions that concern the whole working class in its struggle for socialism. While being totally opposed to discrimination on grounds of race, sex or sexual proclivity, we declare that obsession with identity politics, including sexual politics, divides the working class.

 

 

https://workerspartybritain.org/about/

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1 hour ago, viRdjil said:

It’d be extremely difficult to win back those Workington Men votes of the Party is led by a remainer. The worst thing Jeremy ever did was to humour those undemocratic People Votes/Final Say imbeciles. The focus should always have been on trying to minimise the damage of Brexit as opposed to trying reverse the result of the referendum. 

 

What's undemocratic about a democratic vote?

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16 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Well, it wouldn't be right to implement something without getting public confirmation that that was what everyone wanted, would it.

 

Oh.

 

I'm not sure you'd be the same if we voted to remain, years passed with parliament arguing, then we had another vote on what type of remain to choose with an option to leave.

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15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I'm not sure you'd be the same if we voted to remain, years passed with parliament arguing, then we had another vote on what type of remain to choose with an option to leave.

 

There is only one type of status quo. Clue is in the name "status quo".

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52 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

There is only one type of status quo. Clue is in the name "status quo".

 

Trying to block leaving the EU has partly led to the current Tory majority where almost every single seat Labour lost voted to leave. Tories are in power until the next election, they want to leave and nobody has the ability to block their votes. The entire argument seems pointless.

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13 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Breaking News: RLB overwhelmingly chosen by around 15% of Momentum members to be their candidate for next leader of Labour.

 

In a poll of one. 

 

What's wrong with that? She's the only real socialist candidate, it's good to have something rigged in favour of a socialist for a change.

 

I'm joking, think it's stupid even though I'd prefer her to win. Momentum are good at campaigning, democracy in their setup not so much.

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5 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Well, it wouldn't be right to implement something without getting public confirmation that that was what everyone wanted, would it.

 

Oh.

Since 2016 we've had a referendum and two elections. Leave won the referendum and Leave supporting parties won both elections. How much more confirmation do you need?

 

 

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32 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Since 2016 we've had a referendum and two elections. Leave won the referendum and Leave supporting parties won both elections. How much more confirmation do you need?

 

Count up the percentage of votes that parties supporting a second referendum got in the election. I'll wait.

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32 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Since 2016 we've had a referendum and two elections. Leave won the referendum and Leave supporting parties won both elections. How much more confirmation do you need?

 

 

An awful lot more if your only barometer in life is the views on this site.

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