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2 hours ago, Alan Sex said:

One of the kids is asking about a VR setup for her birthday. Is the quest the way to go?

Currently, yes. Minimum age is 14 I believe.

 

apple are making one, Samsung are making a new one, Sony have a new one coming for ps5. 
 

if you want one now, quest. If you are willing to wait, see what the other entries have and possibly see how it effects prices.

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46 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Currently, yes. Minimum age is 14 I believe.

 

apple are making one, Samsung are making a new one, Sony have a new one coming for ps5. 
 

if you want one now, quest. If you are willing to wait, see what the other entries have and possibly see how it effects prices.

Cheers Shooter. 
 

She’s not quite there age wise so I might try to steer her away for a couple of years!

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6 hours ago, Alan Sex said:

Cheers Shooter. 
 

She’s not quite there age wise so I might try to steer her away for a couple of years!

Personaly I wouldn't worry too much about age, giving her suitable time limits ofc. I have had kids as young as 5 using VR (supervised ofc) and as old as being in 80s. We have given proberbly hundreds of people their 1st VR experience as we have been using VR headsets since 2013.

 

The husband would take our old DK1 and PC in to the school he taught for open evenings, kids from primamy school and parents checking the local schools out and have minecraft maths challanges, also on end of term he would take in steering wheel and have the do time trials 11-16 year olds.

 

Only problems we had was some would be motion sickness which could happen at any age. Was mainly due to the poor resolution and fps that the very early models had.

 

There is alot of really fun games and experiences that can be had, and really fire her imagination. Deep sea, trip across solar system, games you can make stupid contraptions, all sorts.

 

Besides, I have vested intrest in people loving VR because we sell VR stocks for first person shooters.

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19 hours ago, an tha said:

The lad wants one of these for christmas - we are umming and ahhing over it.

 

He will be 13 by Christmas - he games a lot (has a PS5) and does all this online stuff with his mates.

 

Is it a good buy?

 

Any tips/thoughts appreciated.

 

Ta.

We've had one since last Xmas, and I have two lads 8 and 12. 

It was the 8 year olds present, the other lad got a PS5.  We saved and didnt holiday last year, hence the big gifts.  

 

Firstly, it's amazing, buy one.  

Secondly, the kids drift in and out of playing it generally, but just recently they got excited by Among Us, so I quite often find it lying in their room with no charge.  I work from home mostly now so I seem to spend most days finding iPads and stuff lying around with flat batteries.  

 

It's just getting started, I think a big reason they don't spend a lot of time on it so far is that hardly any of their mates have one.  I think that might change this Xmas, and once a bunch of them explore it together then I suspect it'll be the most device in the house.  

 

I personally love it.  The porn is ace (use the browser, go incognito mode, search VR Smash). 

But recently I've been watching the footy on BigScreen.  Big realistic cinema rooms with upto 15 people, most channels show films or TV, but a couple of people always set-up a public room to show whatever PL or CL footy is on.  I suspect the same lads will show a few WC games. 

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Quest 2 is a decent buy, we tried the Pico 4 about a month back and it was nowhere near as polished, although the pancake lenses are very nice. We decided not to even bother making a product for it.

 

Q2 works stand alone or as PCVR and performance is not far off the HTC Index in terms of PCVR, to point where we couldn't tell difference. The controller tracking was actually better on the Q2.

 

They have just bought the Quest Pro out, this is expensive and doesn't really give great value. (only reason we have is we make VR products or that is the excuse anyway...apparently).

 

If you invest in one recomend a Halo style headstrap from amazon which is much cheaper than the official Quest one and just makes it more comfortable / balanced. Oh a Beat Saber comps on Christmas day, taking part mandatory for all!

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10 minutes ago, i5x said:

Quest 2 is a decent buy, we tried the Pico 4 about a month back and it was nowhere near as polished, although the pancake lenses are very nice. We decided not to even bother making a product for it.

 

Q2 works stand alone or as PCVR and performance is not far off the HTC Index in terms of PCVR, to point where we couldn't tell difference. The controller tracking was actually better on the Q2.

 

They have just bought the Quest Pro out, this is expensive and doesn't really give great value. (only reason we have is we make VR products or that is the excuse anyway...apparently).

 

If you invest in one recomend a Halo style headstrap from amazon which is much cheaper than the official Quest one and just makes it more comfortable / balanced. Oh a Beat Saber comps on Christmas day, taking part mandatory for all!

I saw the Quest Pro is about £1,500 - I struggle to see how that is going to be 3 times better than the PSVR2 and 5 times better than the original Quest 2.

 

Meta need to be careful as releasing products like that could really harm major take-up.

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18 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

I saw the Quest Pro is about £1,500 - I struggle to see how that is going to be 3 times better than the PSVR2 and 5 times better than the original Quest 2.

 

Meta need to be careful as releasing products like that could really harm major take-up.

 

Not tried PSVR2 yet, as for Pro it certainly is not 5x better than Q2. The lenses are amazing though, the 3D colour pass through is OK, the controllers with the little tracking cameras are comfortable but has drawback depending on usage. There was some odd jitter only noticable now and then so prob needs a firmware update. This might not happen for a while though because to jitter was gaming doing long range snipping - so not really market it was aimed at.

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10 hours ago, i5x said:

 

Not tried PSVR2 yet, as for Pro it certainly is not 5x better than Q2. The lenses are amazing though, the 3D colour pass through is OK, the controllers with the little tracking cameras are comfortable but has drawback depending on usage. There was some odd jitter only noticable now and then so prob needs a firmware update. This might not happen for a while though because to jitter was gaming doing long range snipping - so not really market it was aimed at.

Yes ~I noticed the Quest Pro is aimed at business users but considering gaming systems that are upgraded come with the moniker Pro, it seems a bit disingenuous. Maybe they should have actually called it Quest Professional.

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Just now, an tha said:

Great stuff, appreciate the posts.

 

One question:

 

This playing area lark - if his room is tight for a 6 foot sqaure because of bed and other stuff on floor can he still use it properly....?

Yes but the games purchased should be specifically for small gaming areas. Anything that requires open spaces should not be purchased unless there is a future option. The wearer of the headset can set the boundaries or can be set as stationary.

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1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Yes ~I noticed the Quest Pro is aimed at business users but considering gaming systems that are upgraded come with the moniker Pro, it seems a bit disingenuous. Maybe they should have actually called it Quest Professional.

Dispite this we seem to be having an uptick in products that are usable with the Pro and have a few requests to make stuff specifically for it. We will be selling some Pro specific stuff because of this that are just current products tweeked slightly. So will be interesting to see how sales are and if that message has translated.

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1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Yes but the games purchased should be specifically for small gaming areas. Anything that requires open spaces should not be purchased unless there is a future option. The wearer of the headset can set the boundaries or can be set as stationary.

Good info.

 

Ta.

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Any thoughts on how suitable or not the game Resident Evil 4 is for a just turned 13 year old?

 

I ask as there is a bundle deal on this Quest 2 VR thing with that and Beat Saber for £349.99 - usual headseat alone seems to go for £399.99

 

 

https://www.meta.com/gb/quest/products/quest-2/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA99ybBhD9ARIsALvZavV6YWFKOKxfhu7kGi4lL8Tr15JXYvxfmhw689kOwD6TtyYsDKKBmhIaAjkNEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, an tha said:

Great stuff, appreciate the posts.

 

One question:

 

This playing area lark - if his room is tight for a 6 foot sqaure because of bed and other stuff on floor can he still use it properly....?

 

No VR headset in the civilian world is worth £500+ at the moment.  The Quest is perfect for the price point and all the other stuff is fanboy shite.  At some point, a well-priced 8k set might come out, but it's rather pointless unless the media is 8k quality. 

 

Back to your pertinent question, floor space is rather overrated.  You get a warning if you try and set your boundary with objects detected but you can still choose to continue.  Your biggest worry is damaging the controllers by twatting a wall/sideboard repeatedly, so that's your lookout! 

You don't move your feet really. Not for most things. Loads of things you can play or watch or interact with whole sat in a chair, or lying down even.  

A guy I played mini golf with once, he loves his Quest because he was in a wheelchair, and it gave him a chance to fly a plane.  I didn't have the heart to tell him he could probably fly a real one anyway, he was happy. It's a unique and completely underrated technology.  Reminds me of the slow start that retail PCs had, and then suddenly everyone wanted one.  

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On 17/11/2022 at 21:58, i5x said:

Quest 2 is a decent buy, we tried the Pico 4 about a month back and it was nowhere near as polished, although the pancake lenses are very nice. We decided not to even bother making a product for it.

 

Q2 works stand alone or as PCVR and performance is not far off the HTC Index in terms of PCVR, to point where we couldn't tell difference. The controller tracking was actually better on the Q2.

 

They have just bought the Quest Pro out, this is expensive and doesn't really give great value. (only reason we have is we make VR products or that is the excuse anyway...apparently).

 

If you invest in one recomend a Halo style headstrap from amazon which is much cheaper than the official Quest one and just makes it more comfortable / balanced. Oh a Beat Saber comps on Christmas day, taking part mandatory for all!

I think at some point Zuckerberg will concentrate fully on VR.  It's another pipeline into our pockets.  They'll be selling tickets to Liverpool games live, stood wherever in the stadium you want, watching the game in 8k. He just missed the market for attending the Queen's Funeral on VR, could have onboarded a million oldies.  

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58 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

 

No VR headset in the civilian world is worth £500+ at the moment.  The Quest is perfect for the price point and all the other stuff is fanboy shite.  At some point, a well-priced 8k set might come out, but it's rather pointless unless the media is 8k quality. 

 

Back to your pertinent question, floor space is rather overrated.  You get a warning if you try and set your boundary with objects detected but you can still choose to continue.  Your biggest worry is damaging the controllers by twatting a wall/sideboard repeatedly, so that's your lookout! 

You don't move your feet really. Not for most things. Loads of things you can play or watch or interact with whole sat in a chair, or lying down even.  

A guy I played mini golf with once, he loves his Quest because he was in a wheelchair, and it gave him a chance to fly a plane.  I didn't have the heart to tell him he could probably fly a real one anyway, he was happy. It's a unique and completely underrated technology.  Reminds me of the slow start that retail PCs had, and then suddenly everyone wanted one.  

Nice one - appreciate it.

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