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General Election 2019


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2 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

Yes, I think she's lying

Yes, i believe she has probably come in for a bit of stick from some scumbags (welcome to being in the public eye)

No, i do not believe Williamson was racist.

There will be issues off anti-semitism amongst the labour party membership, because...... drum roll please

tadah! 

there is an issue within British society of anti-Semitism, it is, however, cross party, more of an issue within your party and others on the right, and is being looked at and dealt with in the labour party - hence (what i consider) the over the top expulsion of williamson. 

i don't believe the EHRC can find the party to be institutionally racist.

I believe there are plenty of Jewish members who feel at home within the party, and are happy to have JC as leader.

I believe there are others (jewish and otherwise) who have a fear of corbynism in how it will affect them financially who will use the stick of anti-semitism to smear and stoke fear amongst the in own communities, in order to save a couple of quid.

 

 

Ha. Of course they ‘can’. They might not, but they can if the evidence is there.  So, if they do, how will you deal with that?  

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Ha. Of course they ‘can’. They might not, but they can if the evidence is there.  So, if they do, how will you deal with that?  

well obviously you take apart their argument, it's standard practice, the reason I have stated i don't believe they can, is because I know the party is not institutionally racist, just as i know the tory party is. So the argument is always going to be there to disprove any suggested findings.

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Just now, Captain Turdseye said:

I wonder how many Twitter followers that Tracy-Ann Ubertwat had before she started with her anti-Corbyn campaign, compares to how many she’s got now?

careful now, ubertwat is a bit close to übermensch, and even though Nietzsche died before hitler was playing sticking his crayons up a dogs arse, well it could be seen to be a bit yer know, twilight of the idols.

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4 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

well obviously you take apart their argument, it's standard practice, the reason I have stated i don't believe they can, is because I know the party is not institutionally racist, just as i know the tory party is. So the argument is always going to be there to disprove any suggested findings.

So it’s a religion then? Right. Well, no point carrying on is there?   

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It's almost unbelievable that Rico can't see the difference between a rando in this thread posting photoshops of somebody and a celebrity photoshopping an anti-racist poster to claim a political leader is a racist, printing it on a t-shirt and campaigning against the fucker. Anybody doing that - blatantly lying - and printing it about Swinson or Johnson - as if they've ever protested in that way in their lives - would also be completely out of order. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

So it’s a religion then? Right. Well, no point carrying on is there?   

and off up yer own hoop you disappear once again.

No, it's a party not a religion, led by people of substance, with rules and regulations to protect the membership and society, this is not an argument of faith, this is an argument of a priori knowledge. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

It's almost unbelievable that Rico can't see the difference between a rando in this thread posting photoshops of somebody and a celebrity photoshopping an anti-racist poster to claim a political leader is a racist, printing it on a t-shirt and campaigning against the fucker. Anybody doing that - blatantly lying - and printing it about Swinson or Johnson - as if they've ever protested in that way in their lives - would also be completely out of order. 

 

 

there are none so blind as those who have got their eye on a quid on the floor.

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1 minute ago, arthur friedenreich said:

and off up yer own hoop you disappear once again.

No, it's a party not a religion, led by people of substance, with rules and regulations to protect the membership and society, this is not an argument of faith, this is an argument of a priori knowledge. 

 

 

You’ve stated as an article of faith it can’t be true - you know it. Before seeing the evidence you know it can be destroyed.  Faith.  I find that fucking weird in the extreme. Especially from a man who lives halfway round the world and has done for some time if I remember rightly.  

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14 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

careful now, ubertwat is a bit close to übermensch, and even though Nietzsche died before hitler was playing sticking his crayons up a dogs arse, well it could be seen to be a bit yer know, twilight of the idols.

 

In that post I was originally going to say ‘anti-Corbyn schtick’. Schtick is a term I’ve used before, probably on here at some point or other. But because of recent days criticism of pronunciation I thought I’d better check and Google says it was originally Yiddish slang. I didn’t know that and I’m sure plenty of others don’t either. However if I’d tweeted to Ubertwat herself and used that word, which is fairly common, without knowing exactly where it was first used then I’d probably have been retweeted, outed as an anti-Semite and banned from the Labour Party. 

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2 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

In that post I was originally going to say ‘anti-Corbyn schtick’. Schtick is a term I’ve used before, probably on here at some point or other. But because of recent days criticism of pronunciation I thought I’d better check and Google says it was originally Yiddish slang. I didn’t know that and I’m sure plenty of others don’t either. However if I’d tweeted to Ubertwat herself and used that word, which is fairly common, without knowing exactly where it was first used then I’d probably have been retweeted, outed as an anti-Semite and banned from the Labour Party. 

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1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

You’ve stated as an article of faith it can’t be true - you know it. Before seeing the evidence you know it can be destroyed.  Faith.  I find that fucking weird in the extreme. Especially from a man who lives halfway round the world and has done for some time if I remember rightly.  

i know there will be availability to counter any arguments. because the statistics are out there to prove it. so then it comes down to opinions, and consideration of said statistics.

The fact that i live in AUS??? so when I left, i just fucked off my friends and family and failed to consider their futures? am I no longer a citizen? i have a passport mate, I'm a british citizen, as well as an Australian citizen.

get some fucking work done yer lazy cunt.

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4 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

In that post I was originally going to say ‘anti-Corbyn schtick’. Schtick is a term I’ve used before, probably on here at some point or other. But because of recent days criticism of pronunciation I thought I’d better check and Google says it was originally Yiddish slang. I didn’t know that and I’m sure plenty of others don’t either. However if I’d tweeted to Ubertwat herself and used that word, which is fairly common, without knowing exactly where it was first used then I’d probably have been retweeted, outed as an anti-Semite and banned from the Labour Party. 

Yep. 

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4 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

In that post I was originally going to say ‘anti-Corbyn schtick’. Schtick is a term I’ve used before, probably on here at some point or other. But because of recent days criticism of pronunciation I thought I’d better check and Google says it was originally Yiddish slang. I didn’t know that and I’m sure plenty of others don’t either. However if I’d tweeted to Ubertwat herself and used that word, which is fairly common, without knowing exactly where it was first used then I’d probably have been retweeted, outed as an anti-Semite and banned from the Labour Party. 

are we now no longer allowed to use yiddish? fuck me, that's terrible, it's a wonderful language with how it has impacted English, growing top watching once upon a time in America, I have always tried to drop a bit when conversing with people of a jewish background.

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36 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

Yes, I think she's lying

Yes, i believe she has probably come in for a bit of stick from some scumbags (welcome to being in the public eye)

No, i do not believe Williamson was racist.

There will be issues off anti-semitism amongst the labour party membership, because...... drum roll please

tadah! 

there is an issue within British society of anti-Semitism, it is, however, cross party, more of an issue within your party and others on the right, and is being looked at and dealt with in the labour party - hence (what i consider) the over the top expulsion of williamson. 

i don't believe the EHRC can find the party to be institutionally racist.

I believe there are plenty of Jewish members who feel at home within the party, and are happy to have JC as leader.

I believe there are others (jewish and otherwise) who have a fear of corbynism in how it will affect them financially who will use the stick of anti-semitism to smear and stoke fear amongst the in own communities, in order to save a couple of quid.

 

 

There are but (un)surprisingly their voice is not given a platform when they wish to speak against the narrative.

 

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/statement/rebuttals/

 

Briefing for canvassers: Challenging false allegations of antisemitism

JVL has prepared short clear accounts of the true stories behind the events most often used to support allegations of Labour antisemitism. We hope they will be of use to Labour activists in responding to such allegations on the doorstep. These facts are not secret but journalists and commentators have been reluctant to find them, preferring to regurgitate old sad untruths.

We are preparing more but if you come across other allegations you do not know how to respond to, please send details to rebuttals@jvl.org.uk and we will add it to our work programme.

For our position on antisemitism and our implacable opposition to it, see our statement What is – and what is not – antisemitic misconduct, and our endorsement of the recent Board of Deputies of British Jews/Community Security Trust definition of antisemitism published in October 2019.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, arthur friedenreich said:

i know there will be availability to counter any arguments. because the statistics are out there to prove it. so then it comes down to opinions, and consideration of said statistics.

The fact that i live in AUS??? so when I left, i just fucked off my friends and family and failed to consider their futures? am I no longer a citizen? i have a passport mate, I'm a british citizen, as well as an Australian citizen.

get some fucking work done yer lazy cunt.

On a train, just had my breakfast.  Shit, is it a holy day? So I need to fast? 

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