General Election 2019

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 minutes ago, moof said:

I think we’ve reached peak gaslighting 

 

 

So, I’ve got a question. If you didn’t know Ian Austin was a Jew (assuming he actually is?) and think he was a Tory, should you change your opinion now you know he’s Jewish? So if you weren’t judging him on his race but his actions, should we now judge him on his race and not his actions because... antisemitism, 

 

In short, fuck off, Theo. 

[SasaS]

4 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Haha. That’s brilliant!

 

Ian Austin: you should really vote for the Conservative party

 

Labour members: Tory cunt

 

Theo Usherwood: Bunch of anti-semites.

 

It's almost like a stab in the back.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

17 minutes ago, moof said:

I think we’ve reached peak gaslighting 

 

 

Weapon. 

[Mudface]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

So, I’ve got a question. If you didn’t know Ian Austin was a Jew (assuming he actually is?) and think he was a Tory, should you change your opinion now you know he’s Jewish? So if you weren’t judging him on his race but his actions, should we now judge him on his race and not his actions because... antisemitism, 

 

In short, fuck off, Theo. 

I'm not entirely sure he is, although his adoptive father was according to Wikipedia. I always thought of him as a New Labour hanger-on who got left behind and would certainly have lost his seat at an election.

[moof]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

So, I’ve got a question. If you didn’t know Ian Austin was a Jew (assuming he actually is?) and think he was a Tory, should you change your opinion now you know he’s Jewish? So if you weren’t judging him on his race but his actions, should we now judge him on his race and not his actions because... antisemitism, 

 

In short, fuck off, Theo. 

Haha. Yeah it’s just some bizarre stuff. The discourse around this is completely broken. I feel sorry for the Jewish people; having their identity weaponised like this in such a dishonest way must be infuriating  

[Strontium]

34 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

If you say US interfere in other countries - Well obviously

If you say Iran interfere in other countries - Well obviously

If you say Russia interfere in other countries - Well obviously

If you say Saudi interfere in other countries - Well obviously

If you say Israel interfere in other countries - Anti-Semitic 

 

Is that how it works ?

 

I think how it works is that you present evidence for such claims, and then you can make them, and not before such evidence is presented.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Amazing how many politicians or celebrities find some Jewish heritage so they can hide behind it when being cunts. Utter weapons. 

[Red_or_Dead]

Has Rachel Riley chimed in yet?

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

It's almost as if Labour have had a couple of decent days and moved up a bit in the polls, the way all this "antisemitism" stuff has started to gain steam again. 

 

Apologies if the above post contains some sort of trope. 

[moof]

8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I think how it works is that you present evidence for such claims, and then you can make them, and not before such evidence is presented.

There is plenty of evidence of the israel lobby throwing its weight around to influence things like foreign policy in the United States, for example 

[Strontium]

Just now, moof said:

There is plenty of evidence of the israel lobby throwing its weight around to influence things like foreign policy in the United States, for example 

 

I don't dispute that for a second. But where is the evidence that they are making payments to individual British politicians to trump up antisemitism claims against Her Majesty's Opposition?

[aRdja]

This is pretty fucking scary.

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

6 minutes ago, moof said:

There is plenty of evidence of the israel lobby throwing its weight around to influence things like foreign policy in the United States, for example 

Yeah. Don't go all Shai on us. Where's your evidence?...

[aRdja]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

Yeah. Don't go all Shai on us. Where's your evidence?...

I’ve watched that doco. Chilling.

[moof]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I don't dispute that for a second. But where is the evidence that they are making payments to individual British politicians to trump up antisemitism claims against Her Majesty's Opposition?

I’m not sure there is cast iron evidence available to the public to prove that specific claim, but it’s not a massive leap in logic to infer from past actions, and Israel’s not insignificant influence among some political groups that something like that could easily happen. Israel clearly has a vested interest in not allowing a key ally to elect a principled pro Palestinian politician as prime minister. I think it’s burying your head in the sand if you don’t consider that as a legitimate reason (in their opinion) for them to use proxies to attack that person.  

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Yeah. Don't go all Shai on us. Where's your evidence?...

I think the Israeli government officially “distanced” themselves from shai, after this story broke. One of the reasons why it’s hard to pin down that *cast iron* evidence of Israel wielding its influence in that specific context 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, moof said:

I’m not sure there is cast iron evidence available to the public to prove that specific claim, but it’s not a massive leap in logic to infer from past actions, and Israel’s not insignificant influence among some political groups that something like that could easily happen. Israel clearly has a vested interest in not allowing a key ally to elect a principled pro Palestinian politician as prime minister. I think it’s burying your head in the sand if you don’t consider that as a legitimate reason (in their opinion) for them to use proxies to attack that person.  

Just look at what happened to Ed Miliband. 

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, moof said:

I’m not sure there is cast iron evidence available to the public to prove that specific claim, but it’s not a massive leap in logic to infer from past actions, and Israel’s not insignificant influence among some political groups that something like that could easily happen. Israel clearly has a vested interest in not allowing a key ally to elect a principled pro Palestinian politician as prime minister. I think it’s burying your head in the sand if you don’t consider that as a legitimate reason (in their opinion) for them to use proxies to attack that person.  

 

So, no evidence, then. Okay.

[moof]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

So, no evidence, then. Okay.

There’s plenty of circumstantial evidence and logic clearly points toward that being the case but please, keep burying your head in the sand. 

[Strontium]

8 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I’ve watched that doco. Chilling.

 

Yes, it's chilling how such nonsense can be spun up into something it isn't.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, moof said:

There’s plenty of circumstantial evidence and logic clearly points toward that being the case but please, keep burying your head in the sand. 

 

"Cricumstantial evidence", "logic" - no, I want actual proof. Of politicians who are bought and paid for by Jewish interests.

 

I remember how upset people got when Corbyn was accused of being a paid Czech informant during the Cold War, on not so much less evidence than is being presented here.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Yes, it's chilling how such nonsense can be spun up into something it isn't.

Yeah, that Joan Ryan antisemitism allegation against poor old Jean was horrendous. I agree. 

[moof]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

"Cricumstantial evidence", "logic" - no, I want actual proof. Of politicians who are bought and paid for by Jewish interests.

 

I remember how upset people got when Corbyn was accused of being a paid Czech informant during the Cold War, on not so much less evidence than is being presented here.

Nice conflation of Israeli interests and Jewish interests. I’m sure that was unintentional so I’ll cut you some slack
 

there are countless examples of politicians bought and paid for by Israeli interests, you shifted the goalposts from a specific claim of uk politicians being paid directly in exchange for attacking Corbyn

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Oh, look. It's substituted Israeli interests for "Jewish" interests. 

 

Again, I'm sure that was all accidental and wasn't cheaply trying to imply something else.... 

 

Vile cunt. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

7 minutes ago, moof said:

Nice conflation of Israeli interests and Jewish interests. I’m sure that was unintentional so I’ll cut you some slack
 

 

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