General Election 2019

[SasaS]

48 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

That’s what Johnson did right? He purged 20+ MPs for dissent earlier in the year and it worked okay for them.

He purged the people who voted against him in the parliament and he can move others out of the way now if he wants because he has just won big time. However you look at it, Corbyn lost big time, so for the people close to him to go on a war path against those who didn't accept him as a leader would be a bold move, you'd expect its them who would be on a back foot now.   

[Strontium]

19 minutes ago, moof said:

This must be some solid evidence of their impartiality. You know, if they’re criticised from opposing viewpoints and all. I’m very smart 

 

As it happens, I just read a column from the always excellent Nick Cohen, entitled "Don’t look to Labour to defend the institutions Johnson seeks to destroy - In its current state the party shares too many of the Tories’ worst instincts".

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/15/do-not-look-to-labour-to-defend-the-institutions-johnson-seeks-to-destroy

 

This part is particularly relevant here I think.

 

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The normal constraint on the elite is the fear that the opposition will supplant the government. It doesn’t exist in England. No Tory will fear the rancid rabble of student politicians who make up the Labour leadership, and not only because they failed so abysmally last week. Although they say they hate the Tories, the far left cannot oppose them because they share too many of their worst instincts. Brexit set the pattern. Labour could not lead on the greatest issue of our age because its leader thought in all seriousness he could be “neutral”. It would not expose Johnson’s false claims that he could “get Brexit done” because it was too conflicted to talk about Brexit at all.

The same will apply to a Conservative assault on the institutions of liberal democracy. The far left will not defend the independence of Channel 4 and the BBC because they no more believe in a free press than the right. (You may have noticed that Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters are as eager to attack the BBC as the most morally compromised Telegraph columnist.) They don’t recognise the independence of the judiciary or civil service either. They believe they are the tools of the bourgeois state, and cannot defend what they have never supported.

 

[Jairzinho]

Always excellent Nick Cohen. Always excellent.

[moof]

Hahaha. I’m still not entirely convinced stronts isn’t some kind of bot, you know. 

[redinblack62]

On 13/12/2019 at 20:40, Scrump said:

Can we join in from Bristol?

Bristol is a cool place......as far as Im concerned its in

 

[redinblack62]

A few months ago before this shitshow kicked off I was out in the car and I had Radio 4 on, and it was the run up to the Tory leadership fight between Johnson and Jeremy Cunt, and the BBC reporter asked some Tories who they would go with, and this horrible old cunt said "well I just want someone to make me laugh, so Ill go with Boris"

 

From that moment it was obvious we were completely fucked

[redinblack62]

On 14/12/2019 at 01:54, Strontium Dog™ said:

Good grief man, it's only an election. At least wait and see if Armageddon ensues before you sink into despair. You got through Thatcher, you can get through this.

And you have pretty much outed yourself there. Its only an election. You can get through Thatcher....you have no idea what some people are going through....but its  "you" and not "me" or "us". You are beneath contempt and I wont look at you anymore, yoiu are a child of Satan. And dont reply you are ignored. 

[Strontium]

31 minutes ago, redinblack62 said:

And you have pretty much outed yourself there. Its only an election. You can get through Thatcher....you have no idea what some people are going through....but its  "you" and not "me" or "us". You are beneath contempt and I wont look at you anymore, yoiu are a child of Satan. And dont reply you are ignored. 

 

What the actual fuck?

 

If I've outed myself as anything, it's as someone who tries to make a person like Gnasher, with whom I vehemently disagree, feel a bit better when he's clearly down in the dumps.

 

If that gets me put on ignore by people like you, so be it, you witless cretin.

[Dr Nowt]

Ha. I always read those sign-offs from you in the voice of Major Misunderstanding from Viz, Stronts.

 

Repped on that basis, as it makes me laugh.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Political parties need to stop attacking these TV stations. Instead, they should just take them to court when they can't get their own way. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I’ve yet to be convinced that the BBC should be funded forcibly by TV owners. I dunno, I can see some of the benefits but it’s all a bit shit. 

[Scooby Dudek]

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Well, turns out that the 'Towns Fund', which was basically £20m going to seemingly randomly-selected list of 100 towns, yielded half of them becoming Tory gains, announced back in October. 

https://www.lgcplus.com/politics/governance-and-structure/exclusive-half-of-tory-gains-are-towns-fund-seats-13-12-2019/?eea=ZkZWMys5VDFBTVNVRlZKNTEvdzJ5c3ZQbVRUK0hab2sxUjVBZGpoOXVzcz0=&n_hash=404&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTnpBMVpESTBNVGRtWXpFMyIsInQiOiJIXC85eFdFTWlmWU8xbTFCQ042dmY3XC9WeXRyeWpMNk5yVXlyQ2tNXC93V0txdXlpbUpvak1WaEN2Z1k4dHFhcFVKU3JFc3RHbkkraFZ6eHFyU1wvR3ZXb0lMUnhlS2FYQ3dEZm1jXC9vZHl5THZoa2ZadEp6M3I1TFhQa2g4T09CSG90In0%3D

 

£3.6bn they spent on that vote winner. Though when I say 'spent', they haven't actually given out any of that money.  The 100 towns were asked to apply, and the government are still paused on moving to 'Stage 2', which will give more 'guidance'.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/towns-fund-prospectus 

 

I fully expect a new budget to be set, and all of these promises to suddenly vanish.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

I mean, I don't blame them.  

They play the game, and they win, they know their audience.

 

One thing that gives me hope though, is Dominic Cummings.

Some of his blog posts have an undercurrent of socialism, improving things for everyone, and we all remember his true view of the Tories, which was repeated during the election campaign.

 

I wonder if he might be an important figure in this government, and if he lent his expertise to them in exchange for more power to dictate policy.  After all, we know that Boris doesn't have any policies, he's not interested in large scale reform, he clearly doesn't understand many parts of the public sector.  

 

I think some Tories might be agitated by Cummings, he's a weird fish, but these fuckers are in his pocket now.  He made them, and if they fuck him he will think nothing of switching sides and destroying them.  He's a fucking prick, but maybe he might surprise a few people. 

[aRdja]

Sinister. Freedom of speech in this country is dying.

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I mean, I don't blame them.  

They play the game, and they win, they know their audience.

 

One thing that gives me hope though, is Dominic Cummings.

Some of his blog posts have an undercurrent of socialism, improving things for everyone, and we all remember his true view of the Tories, which was repeated during the election campaign.

 

I wonder if he might be an important figure in this government, and if he lent his expertise to them in exchange for more power to dictate policy.  After all, we know that Boris doesn't have any policies, he's not interested in large scale reform, he clearly doesn't understand many parts of the public sector.  

 

I think some Tories might be agitated by Cummings, he's a weird fish, but these fuckers are in his pocket now.  He made them, and if they fuck him he will think nothing of switching sides and destroying them.  He's a fucking prick, but maybe he might surprise a few people. 

Personally I think the only thing we can cling to is Johnson's majority and ego. He will want to go down as a great. I don't think he's aligned to anything politically, he's just aligned to himself. He will want to win a 2nd term and will know he doesn't have Brexit to cling to then and will want to keep those seats from the traditional labour voters, so I expect some if not all of the investment he's promised. It's not much to cling to and without doubt we will see him have give aways for corporations and the rich, but I genuinely think health, the police and education will at least be funded at better levels of the last 10 years. I have no doubt though he will happily fuck this city as he does so. 

[Strontium]

43 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Sinister. Freedom of speech in this country is dying.

 

 

 

What does this have to do with freedom of speech?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The debate rages on as to what cost Labour in the election. 

 

Was it Corbyn? The Brexit policy? The manifesto? The press? 

 

None of the above. It was all down to the spoon nonce. 

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

1 minute ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The debate rages on as to what cost Labour in the election. 

 

Was it Corbyn? The Brexit policy? The manifesto? The press? 

 

None of the above. It was all down to the spoon nonce. 

 

 

I hope he ends up impaled on a giant bent spoon the Tory cunt!

[moof]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47036119

 

seems like an appropriate time to complete the transition away from consuming animals for sustenance. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Tories keeping with their "thou shall not hold war criminals to account" policy, I see. 

[aRdja]

State punishment for those who would like to actively participate in a peaceful act of political expression. Chilling.

[moof]

Just now, viRdjil said:

State punishment for those who would like to actively participate in a peaceful act of political expression. Chilling.

I still recall people on this very website baulking at the use of the term “fascism”, but, unless you’re historically illiterate, all the hallmarks are present 

[aRdja]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

I still recall people on this very website baulking at the use of the term “fascism”, but, unless you’re historically illiterate, all the hallmarks are present 

One step away from jailing protesters.

[SasaS]

10 minutes ago, moof said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47036119

 

seems like an appropriate time to complete the transition away from consuming animals for sustenance. 

Complete? It has not even started.