General Election 2019

[aRdja]

11 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Whether you read them or not is not the issue. It doesn't mean that anything that they, or any other source, says, can be dismissed out of hand merely because it comes from them.

 

If a statement or opinion has validity, then it is immaterial whether the person saying it is chief economist at EvilCorp or Head Fluffer for Vivid Entertainment.

It does I think. Wikipedia have practically banned users from using the Daily Mail as a source.

[cloggypop]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Oh he will just ignore it. He didn't come online for a day when the last lot was posted on here. Nobody can tell me he isn't a tory and make me believe them. 

What, just because he disseminates Thatcherite think tanks? 

[Strontium]

11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

More? SD still yet to comment on all of these I notice. 

 

I only comment on things that matter.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I only comment on things that matter.

More lies and snideness Daniel-son..... I thought you were really trying to cut that nonsense out. 

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

It does I think. Wikipedia have practically banned users from using the Daily Mail as a source.

 

And of course, plenty of places ban the use of Wikipedia as a source. But the point is, none of this means that everything the Daily Mail or Wikipedia says is automatically untrue or dodgy.

[aRdja]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

And of course, plenty of places ban the use of Wikipedia as a source. But the point is, none of this means that everything the Daily Mail or Wikipedia says is automatically untrue or dodgy.

Of course but I don’t think it’s ‘mad’ for me to wait for a more impartial source than a Tory volunteer.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

More lies and snideness Daniel-son..... I thought you were really trying to cut that nonsense out. 

 

I can honestly say that I haven't encountered any (real) person who has told me that a Lib Dem PR rep allegedly faking the timestamp on an email is going to be a factor in how they vote. 

[cloggypop]

Get your CV in to Lib Dem central office SD. Heard there's a vacancy going. Send them a link to your profile on here. 

[aRdja]

20 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

The Liberal Democrats' head of media, Rosy Cobb, has been suspended over allegations that she deliberately faked an email to a journalist.

 

https://www.prweek.com/article/1667821/lib-dems-head-media-suspended-fake-email-allegations

Far out. That’s awful.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

And of course, plenty of places ban the use of Wikipedia as a source. But the point is, none of this means that everything the Daily Mail or Wikipedia says is automatically untrue or dodgy.

No, it means trusting it without doing your own research and verification is less likely to result in credible information. Let's not mistake the veracity of a claim not being dependant on the source with all sources being equally likely to offer credible information. 

[cloggypop]

1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

Of course but I don’t think it’s ‘mad’ for me to wait for a more impartial source than a Tory volunteer.

The director of a think tank literally founded by Margaret fucking Thatcher is a bit more than a Tory volunteer. 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

No, it means trusting it without doing your own research and verification is less likely to result in credible information. Let's not mistake the veracity of a claim not being dependant on the source with all sources being equally likely to offer credible information. 

 

I'm pretty sure none of this is at odds with what I've been saying. The issue I have is dismissing claims solely based on the source, and not even bothering with the research bit in the first place.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I can honestly say that I haven't encountered any (real) person who has told me that a Lib Dem PR rep allegedly faking the timestamp on an email is going to be a factor in how they vote. 

Sub-human, lying cunt. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

Yes, I'm sure someone of the "Leave Means Leave" variety was always likely to vote Lib Dem in the first place.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Yes, I'm sure someone of the "Leave Means Leave" variety was always likely to vote Lib Dem in the first place.

I was more interested in the picture you fucking piano shagger. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I'm pretty sure none of this is at odds with what I've been saying. The issue I have is dismissing claims solely based on the source, and not even bothering with the research bit in the first place.

I don't think he was dismissing them as false, just saying he didn't want to read anything by that source. Same as I would with Daily Mail, Sun, Star, etc. 

 

Either way, the figures are dodgy. 

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I was more interested in the picture you fucking piano shagger. 

 

Well I can't see the picture on this computer. Also it was a harpsichord.

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Sub-human

Can we fucking not? 

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I'm pretty sure none of this is at odds with what I've been saying. The issue I have is dismissing claims solely based on the source, and not even bothering with the research bit in the first place.

 

You've dismissed purely because RT has been linked in the past, sure of it. I agree with what you're saying to an extent, you've not always done the same though. Or maybe RT is a special case because it's "Russian propaganda." And we can't have those commies altering our thoughts because it's state backed, unlike the BBC which is also state backed but fine.

[cloggypop]

4 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Can we fucking not? 

 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

6 hours ago, arthur friedenreich said:

How many of the the spongers actually was arch it themselves? Bet yer auld Betty swerves the fucking thing.

 

It was down by a million viewers last year to about 6,1 million, despite being broadcast on the two most popular free to air channels. Plus how many just left their TV on whilst they went to make a cup of tea or have a dump. 

[lifetime fan]

Had the Lib Dem propaganda flyer through the post yesterday, they claimed the tories can’t win the seat and it’s between them

and labour. 
 

I couldn’t help but laugh...

 

 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Can we fucking not? 

Who the fuck are you? Do one dickhead. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Who the fuck are you? Do one dickhead. 

No.