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10 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

No, you're just going to take another biased source, one which doesn't have solid mathematics behind it, as gospel truth instead.

 

How wonderful when you can just disregard people's expert opinions wholesale, no matter how much evidential support they provide, just because you dislike their ideological bent. A recipe for true lifetime ignorance.

He’s an accountant isn’t he?  Numbers are his thing. 

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3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I love how you say that, as if it makes any difference at all to the merit of his argument.

By that token Corbyn shouldn’t promote the Labour manifesto as he’s biased for labour. No? 

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20 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

I love how you are ignoring who and what he is because you like what he says. 

 

Yeah, imagine ignoring irrelevant information and rationally appraising something based on its objective value. What a loon.

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22 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

By that token Corbyn shouldn’t promote the Labour manifesto as he’s biased for labour. No? 

 

Oh, that seems to be okay, because his bias is the "right" one. So we can swallow stuff from that source unquestioningly.

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5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I'd prefer to see money funnelled to the neediest in society, which I suppose is why the Lib Dem manifesto is more generous to low-income groups, but each to their own.

Got to love manifesto promises that you know you won’t ever have to put into action, because when you did you just have to say ‘we are the junior partner in a coalition’. 

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4 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Got to love manifesto promises that you know you won’t ever have to put into action

 

Yeah, but enough about the Labour Party manifesto already.

 

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@viRdjil because he wants an unbiased source

 

https://fullfact.org/election-2019/labour-claims-about-savings-under-their-policies-are-not-credible/

 



Labour today released figures that they said showed that costs to the average family had risen by almost £6,000 since 2010, while Labour policies would save the average family £6,700.

Very few of these figures represent what “average families” will save under Labour’s policies, or how much more those families have had to pay under the Conservatives.

More than three quarters of the supposed “savings” come from just two large costs, rail season tickets and childcare, neither of which comes close to reflecting what an average family actually pays. In England, two fifths of families don’t pay anything for childcare; only 5% of people use a train more than three times a week.

Some of the smaller figures seem fair estimates of savings that might come about if Labour’s policies were implemented, but they overstate the extra costs families have faced since 2010.

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4 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Thanks, will read that one. Not going to waste my time on CCHQ stuff sorry SD.

 

It wasn't CCHQ, and he says practically the same things as FullFact. Seems a bit mad to dismiss one source and accept another when they're saying the same thing, but okay.

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Javid busy lying about the growth of homelessness under the Tories, and especially about Labour's record in government which had seen it cut substantially.

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4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It wasn't CCHQ, and he says practically the same things as FullFact. Seems a bit mad to dismiss one source and accept another when they're saying the same thing, but okay.

Is it really? I think it’s quite normal that you pick and choose your info source. I don’t read the daily mail (or the sun for that matter) for example. Is that mad?

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7 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Javid busy lying about the growth of homelessness under the Tories, and especially about Labour's record in government which had seen it cut substantially.

 

Homeless people don’t buy season tickets for trains though, so Labour are the biggest liars. 

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6 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Is it really? I think it’s quite normal that you pick and choose your info source. I don’t read the daily mail (or the sun for that matter) for example. Is that mad?

 

Whether you read them or not is not the issue. It doesn't mean that anything that they, or any other source, says, can be dismissed out of hand merely because it comes from them.

 

If a statement or opinion has validity, then it is immaterial whether the person saying it is chief economist at EvilCorp or Head Fluffer for Vivid Entertainment.

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55 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I'd prefer to see money funnelled to the neediest in society, which I suppose is why the Lib Dem manifesto is more generous to low-income groups, but each to their own.

It was nice of Jo Swinson to apologise for the Lib den part in Austerity. now if she could only bring back those 700,000 dead people back to life and end her squirrel genocide I reckon we could put her down as a maybe. 

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2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

The Liberal Democrats' head of media, Rosy Cobb, has been suspended over allegations that she deliberately faked an email to a journalist.

 

https://www.prweek.com/article/1667821/lib-dems-head-media-suspended-fake-email-allegations

More? SD still yet to comment on all of these I notice. 

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