General Election 2019

[Megadrive Man]

19 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The amount of utter head the balls on social media who are convinced that it was a photo staged by Momentum is genuinely concerning. Their "evidence" is a random Facebook post from a user not personally known to them who claims to have been told by a nurse at Leeds hospital that the child had a bed but the parents deliberately put him on a floor to take a photo. 

 

There's some genuinely fucking crazy/thick fuckers out there! 

Yeah there's been a massive argument about this in my local live facebook group. Incredibly though the people arguing for this eventually saw sense and apologised and deleted their comments!

[Scooby Dudek]

17 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah will have hopefully done him some damage. I can't see how 7mil people seeing it wouldn't have in some way.

 

 

Saw that too, strange how they thought anyone would believe it, pathetic really.

 

Jezza's just called out the media too for the fake punch story, today keeps on getting better :

 

 

 

According to Carole Malone on Sky News Press Preview, Labour paying for taxis for activist to go and harass Hancock is exactly the same as journalists being misinformed by Tories that someone was assaulted.

 

 

Even the guy from the Times said getting activists to go somewhere is normal behaviour.   

 

  

[Dougie Do'ins]

I know there's not much can be done about the bias towards the mainstream independent media but has anyone actually complained about the BBC and Kuenssberg in particular ?

 

Well hears a link to make a complaint.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints

[lifetime fan]

1 hour ago, cloggypop said:

It freaks my nut out to this day that Jo Swinson is from Glasgow but sounds like she's from Bristol. 

Oi! 
 

You can fuck off with that shite. 
 

We’re proud as fuck to have had Tony Benn represent this City. 

[cloggypop]

1 minute ago, lifetime fan said:

Oi! 
 

You can fuck off with that shite. 
 

We’re proud as fuck to have had Tony Benn represent this City. 

Read this in a Fred West accent 

[lifetime fan]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

Read this in a Fred West accent 

Guilty as charged for that bit. 
 

But you can fuck off trying to associate her with this city. 

[cloggypop]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

Guilty as charged for that bit. 
 

But you can fuck off trying to associate her with this city. 

Hey, I'm not the one from Glasgow pretending to be from Bristol. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

We now have a Telegraph columnist going along with the fake photo of sick kid line.

 

Christ. But, it's Corbynism that's a cult, apparently. 

 

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

 

[Aventus]

15 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

We now have a Telegraph columnist going along with the fake photo of sick kid line.

 

Christ. But, it's Corbynism that's a cult, apparently. 

 

 

 

Won't be long before they start citing Evertonian taxi drivers as their sources. 

[Stickman]

13 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

We now have a Telegraph columnist going along with the fake photo of sick kid line.

 

Christ. But, it's Corbynism that's a cult, apparently. 

 

 

 

Allison Pearson is just a horrible  cunt .  

 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/brussels-airport-metro-attacks-allison-pearson-brexit_uk_56f10b89e4b030d552efcab5/

 

[Scooby Dudek]

24 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

We now have a Telegraph columnist going along with the fake photo of sick kid line.

 

Christ. But, it's Corbynism that's a cult, apparently. 

 

 

 

Claim Antisemitism. Cause outrage. Castigate people who doubt it for showing insufficient compassion.

[aRdja]

 

[Denny Crane]

Bit more on this from virdjils post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[polymerpunkah]

3 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

A chair? Luxury! I used to dream of sleeping in a chair at the hospital.

 

When I got sick as a child I had to sleep on the floor. And was glad of it!

 

But you try and tell the young people today that...and they might believe you.

[Denny Crane]

These aren't measured against the result in the 2017 election but against previous Delta polling. The results last time were. So if this was to be replicated the three seats go 2-1 to 3-0 in favour of the Conservatives. 

 

C 47 43.8 in Finchley & Golders Green . 

C 46.6 38.4 Cities of London & Westminster

L 42.33 42.18 Kensington 

 

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

6 hours ago, Scooby Dudek said:

According to Carole Malone on Sky News Press Preview, Labour paying for taxis for activist to go and harass Hancock is exactly the same as journalists being misinformed by Tories that someone was assaulted.

 

She sounds like an absolute twat. I prefer this Carole, I bet she'd knock Malone out in a fight too : https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla?lang=en

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

10 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

good writer Brookmyre

[AngryOfTuebrook]

9 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

Guilty as charged for that bit. 
 

But you can fuck off trying to associate her with this city. 

Doesn't look like a Swinson city to me.

 

 

[Jairzinho]

10 hours ago, Champ said:

There seemed to be far more Brexit supporters than I would expect in a group of people of their age

I'd imagine the BBC wanted to appear "balanced" by, essentially, choosing an unrepresentative selection of 18-30s. That said, they were still considerably less idiotic than the usual Question Time audience.

[Harry Squatter]

[aRdja]

@Strontium Dog™ this is yet another example why I don’t read the daily mail and won’t take it as a source of information.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/break-embargo-expose-press-lies-labour

 

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Why do I have to break an embargo in order to expose press lies about Labour? | George Monbiot

George MonbiotTue 10 Dec 2019 06.00 GMT

We’ve taken on the Mail on Sunday and won. But the newspaper regulator won’t correct the story till after the election

One of the golden rules of journalism is that you don’t break an embargo – a block on publication until a certain date. For the first time in my career, I’m breaking one now. The moral case for doing so outweighs the moral case for respecting it.

For five months the press regulator, Ipso, which was set up by British newspapers, has been considering a complaint that could play a role in this election. It concerns an outrageous lie about the Labour party first published by the Mail on Sunday and repeated many times by other newspapers and the Conservative party.

Two weeks ago, Ipso ruled against the paper, and imposed a major sanction. The Mail on Sunday asked for a review of the decision, delaying its publication.

As far as voters are concerned, the lie stands. A key claim used to tip the balance against Labour remains uncorrected

The review upheld the decision, but it still hasn’t been published. So, as far as voters are concerned, the lie stands. A key claim used to tip the balance against Labour remains uncorrected. I owe more to the truth than I do to the embargo.

Last summer, I co-published a report to the Labour party titled Land for the Many. It took many months of work, drawing on a vast range of sources and expertise, to produce radical but realistic ideas for changing the way we use our most important resource. We worked hard to make our arguments as watertight as possible. We needn’t have bothered, because our opponents scarcely addressed them.

The storm of lies about our report in the billionaire press gave me an idea of what it must be like to be a Labour politician. Pushing back against them all would be a fulltime job for several people. But we decided to confront one of them in the hope that it might illuminate the others. The Mail on Sunday turned our independent report for the Labour party into “bombshell plans being drawn up by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn”, then told an outright lie about what it contained.

We proposed, it said, “to scrap the capital gains tax exemption on main homes”. At the moment, if you sell the house or flat in which you live, you don’t pay capital gains tax on the profit you might make. We examined the case for changing this, explained the arguments for and against, then clearly and specifically rejected the idea. But who cares, if you can terrify the living daylights out of your readership, convincing them that Corbyn is the spawn of Satan?

As if to suggest that such lies are organised with the Conservative party, the article quoted Boris Johnson, who claimed “this mad ‘tax on all your houses’ would cripple every Brit who owns or wants to own their own home”. The lie was picked up on social media by other senior Conservatives, and has been used repeatedly in the party’s campaign materials, websites and Facebook pages. It was reproduced by most of the other billionaire papers, and continues to be circulated. Just last week, an article by Tom Newton Dunn in the Sun claimed that Labour was considering a “movers tax”, “scrapping the capital gains exemption on main homes”. The false claim has now been deeply implanted in people’s minds: Labour is coming for your home.

One of the authors of our report, Anna Powell-Smith, made a complaint to Ipso. Had she not been determined, she might have been defeated by a process that seems designed to deter. For much of the five months this has taken to resolve, the newspaper, with its vastly greater resources, was allowed to bombard her with Johnsonian arguments, or offer tiny clarifications on a remote page. It was time-consuming and intimidating. Most people are likely to have given up or accepted a meaningless concession. Watching this process, I came to the conclusion that Ipso is not fit for purpose.

Even so, it eventually bowed to the inevitable. This is a rare victory against the billionaire press, but it would count for nothing if buried until the election is over. Anyone who wants a better world finds themselves at war with the exceedingly rich people who own the media and the editors and journalists they employ. The pen might be mightier than the sword, but the wallet is mightier than the pen. News is the propaganda of the oligarch. Are we prepared to allow the proprietors of the newspapers, many of whom live offshore, to determine the course of our politics?

The rewards for political lying are massive: they include winning referendums and elections. The penalties are either nonexistent or tiny. If the Conservative party is sanctioned by the Electoral Commission for any of its outrageous lying and cheating, it might, long after the election, have to pay the maximum fine of £20,000, which a friendly billionaire could doubtless pull out of his back pocket.

If elections are won by lies, we find ourselves governed by liars. They won’t hesitate to ramp up their deceptions when in office. One focus is likely to be voter suppression. Already the Conservatives, learning from Republican tricks in the US, have floated the idea that people must bring photo ID to the polling booths. They know that 3.5 million people, few of whom are likely to vote Conservative, don’t possess it.

The old adages – cheats never prosper, the truth will out, virtue always triumphs – are themselves falsehoods. But, futile as it often seems, one-sided as the war between truth and falsehood always is, we must fight the tide of lies. Don’t let them win this week.

• George Monbiot is a Guardian columnist

 

[Red Phoenix]

Kuntssberg wasn't happy about what happened yesterday. Miserable Tory. It was the best day of the election so far. She at least had a little honesty about her fave party though I suppose.

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Kuntssberg wasn't happy about what happened yesterday. Miserable Tory. It was the best day of the election so far. She at least had a little honesty about her fave party though I suppose.

 

 

Wait till she finds out I've logged a complaint with the bbc about the lie she tweeted about Hancock's advisor being punched.