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15 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The fact is that the FA Panel's verdict could have been overturned on appeal by Lionel Hutz.

 

It's not "could", it's "would"

Just a tiny bit from the panel’s report:

Anderson, Nani, Valencia and Hernandez all gave evidence of what Evra had told them in the dressing room after the game. None of them remembered exactly what Evra had said to them.

Suarez didn’t demand them to appear in front of the panel for cross examination (why should he, he was not in the ManU dressing room anyway and they were not witnesses to the incident). As a result the panel says: “Mr Suárez did not require any of these four players to attend the hearing for cross-examination and so Mr Suárez accepted their evidence in full.  We proceeded, therefore, on the basis that the evidence contained in those witness statements is true and sets out what did, in fact, happen immediately after the game.”

Later in the report the panel goes on to accept those statements as proof of what actually happened. You don’t have to be a lawyer to see that this is outrageous behavior from the panel.

Dirk Kuyt, on the other hand, gave as evidence that he had heard Evra say to the ref (when being booked): ”You only book me because I’m black!”. From the report: “Mr. Kuyt was "absolutely certain" that he heard  Mr Evra say that the referee was only booking him because he was black”. The ref, Mariner, couldn’t confirm hearing that, so the panel says:  “In light of this we reject Mr Kuyt's evidence that Mr Evra said that the referee was only booking him because he was black, however certain Mr Kuyt was that he heard it”.

So real evidence dismissed, second hand information of what Evra allegedly told them after the match, accepted as proof of what actually happened.

A lawyer’s dream this, if appealed.

Patrice Evra may be the cunt in this story,  but John Henry is the pussy.

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We treated the hearing as a sport disciplinary matter. In view of the serious nature of the charges we should have treated it as a trial and brought in a top QC specializing in criminal law.  The case against Suarez would have been ripped to shreds. 

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36 minutes ago, Grinch said:

It would have helped if Comolli, Kenny and Suarez got their stories straight. 

 

That was fucking inexplicable at the time. 

Basically, Suarez said "Porque, negro?" and Kenny and Comolli  (and Kuyt) don't speak Spanish so they just guessed at what they thought it meant.

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The Mrs is a bottle and a half of Pinot deep and she’s talking less shite than most in here.

 

Evra is a prick, Luis is a bitey racist and neither are good people.

 

Stop, drop, forget and move on. No good comes of all the tawdry nonsense.

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19 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

The Mrs is a bottle and a half of Pinot deep and she’s talking less shite than most in here.

 

Evra is a prick, Luis is a bitey racist and neither are good people.

 

Stop, drop, forget and move on. No good comes of all the tawdry nonsense.

Pics or GTFO 

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2 hours ago, Istvan Kosma said:

Didn't we send some woman who was completely out of their depth? Like the club lawyer? Natelie something

Can't remember but it was someone who had experience of sports law.  

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3 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Basically, Suarez said "Porque, negro?" and Kenny and Comolli  (and Kuyt) don't speak Spanish so they just guessed at what they thought it meant.

 

Just guessed.... Did they bother speaking to the man at all? 

 

Bizarre when we made such a song and dance bout his innocence but apparently weren't even sure what he said. 

 

Our owners then hung him out to dry the minute he was banned, can't be having that sort of publicity on the brand now. 

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16 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

The Mrs is a bottle and a half of Pinot deep and she’s talking less shite than most in here.

 

Evra is a prick, Luis is a bitey racist and neither are good people.

 

Stop, drop, forget and move on. No good comes of all the tawdry nonsense.

No,Evra and Suarez are cunts but Suarez does not deserve to be branded a racist at all. Bitey? Absolutely,but certainly not a racist based on the shambles that passed for a disciplinary hearing. He is also a pretty bad poster boy for White Supremacists given his heritage.

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5 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

No,Evra and Suarez are cunts but Suarez does not deserve to be branded a racist at all. Bitey? Absolutely,but certainly not a racist based on the shambles that passed for a disciplinary hearing. He is also a pretty bad poster boy for White Supremacists given his heritage.


You misread my tone, I literally could not care less.

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We sent Peter McCormick, a sports and commercial lawyer, Natalie Wignall, then club counsel, and Zoe Ward, club secretary.

 

As AWS said, we should have sent some heavy hitting QC’s versed in both sports and criminal law, who would have eviscerated Evra and made it very difficult for the PL to have done what they did.

 

A lesson I hope we learned with the false allegation against Bobby.

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1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I think its grossly unfair anybody should be labelled a racist on that 'evidence.' Even a cunt like Suarez.

I like to use the word "perverse" because the verdict runs counter to the findings of the investigation. 

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