GE2019 result

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

Corbyn would only be able to muster up a majority with the 21 Tories who lost the whip the other day. There is absolutely no chance they would prop Corbyn up as caretaker PM until 2022. 

 

Neither will the Lib Dems. 

The SNP might prop up labour in return for another Scottish referendum.  

[Sugar Ape]

4 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

The SNP might prop up labour in return for another Scottish referendum.  

 

Not in this parliament they won’t as they’re well short of a majority. 

 

Edit: I was responding to Skend who seemed to be saying Corbyn would lead a government in this parliament and they wouldn’t call an election.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Will be a protest vote against both Cunts and Labour for their inability to get Brexit done.

 

Means Farage will be the kingmaker and mean that Cuntservatives will increase their number of seats to 400+.

 

In summary, we're fucked...

[sir roger]

I haven't seen anybody ( other than Skend ) suggesting Corbyn is looking for anything other than a few weeks in charge leading to an election & No-Deal banished.

[Boss]

Why would anyone, with any long term goals for a Labour government, think it's a smart move for Corbyn to roadblock Brexit? He'll be losing 50% of the voting population outright. Scotland is controlled by the SNP. NI is split between Sinn Fein and DUP. You'd have Corbyn essentially squatting in number 10 to filibuster Brexit. It would be monumentally disastrous for his own popularity and the popularity of the party. Corbyn was better off staying out of it. 

[Megadrive Man]

Labour don't necessarily want to roadblock Brexit.

 

I think their strategy will be to negotiate a new Brexit deal, then put it to the public in a Remain vs their deal vote.  

[Brownie]

The Tories will be in power, either via a small majority or coalition.

 

Corbyn remains too toxic to be voted in, i’m afraid.

[Boss]

7 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Labour don't necessarily want to roadblock Brexit.

 

I think their strategy will be to negotiate a new Brexit deal, then put it to the public in a Remain vs their deal vote.  

 

Well they do. That's why they are roadblocking no deal and why they also roadblocked May's deal. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Labour to win every seat. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

Well they do. That's why they are roadblocking no deal and why they also roadblocked May's deal. 

Maybe they just don't want a no deal Brexit or to vote for a shite deal which loads of Tories voted against? 

 

Just saying, like... 

[Davelfc]

 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

Not in this parliament they won’t as they’re well short of a majority. 

 

Edit: I was responding to Skend who seemed to be saying Corbyn would lead a government in this parliament and they wouldn’t call an election.

Oh they'd need more than the snp now of course. But if Corbyn is to get pm without an election, it'll be to deal with the EU extension and then call a GE, he won't get to implement anything. 

[Barrington Womble]

22 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

Well they do. That's why they are roadblocking no deal and why they also roadblocked May's deal. 

They're road blocking no deal because it's an imbecilic policy. 

[Sugar Ape]

7 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Oh they'd need more than the snp now of course. But if Corbyn is to get pm without an election, it'll be to deal with the EU extension and then call a GE, he won't get to implement anything. 

 

Yeah I think that goes without saying. It was just Skend saying Corbyn could form a government now until 2022 if Johnson loses a vote of no confidence that I disagreed with. There’s no chance of that happening.

[Creator Supreme]

41 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Labour to win every seat. 

Fuck off, they're not getting Brighton Pavilion!

[Scott_M]

15 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

Labour don't necessarily want to roadblock Brexit.

 

I think their strategy will be to negotiate a new Brexit deal, then put it to the public in a Remain vs their deal vote.  

 

I’m absolutely 100% remain, but seeing only people who voted for Brexit “no matter what” are currently getting what they voted for (ie £350m per week won’t be going to the NHS, Immigration won’t fully curbed, we won’t be accepting  millions of people from Turkey and there won’t be more opportunities with the rest of the world) that’s the way it should be. 

 

You’d hope the fact that people are more aware of what Brexit means & that Leave was mainly built on lies, would mean common sense will prevail a 2nd time round. 

[Scooby Dudek]

17 hours ago, Boss said:

Why would anyone, with any long term goals for a Labour government, think it's a smart move for Corbyn to roadblock Brexit? He'll be losing 50% of the voting population outright. Scotland is controlled by the SNP. NI is split between Sinn Fein and DUP. You'd have Corbyn essentially squatting in number 10 to filibuster Brexit. It would be monumentally disastrous for his own popularity and the popularity of the party. Corbyn was better off staying out of it. 

Why would anyone, with any long term goals for a Tory government, think it's a smart move for Johnson to railroad No Deal Brexit? He'll be losing 50% of the voting population outright. Scotland is controlled by the SNP. NI is split between Sinn Fein and DUP. You'd have Johnson essentially squatting in number 10 to force through No Deal Brexit. It would be monumentally disastrous for his own popularity and the popularity of the party. Johnson was better off staying out of it. 

 

 

 

I am not saying you are wrong but both situations are essentially the same but being sold completely differently, IMO.

[Dr Nowt]

Tory with a small majority.

[deiseach]

For GE 2019 purposes, NI is not split. It will be 10-1 to the Tories.

[sir roger]

5 hours ago, deiseach said:

For GE 2019 purposes, NI is not split. It will be 10-1 to the Tories.

Yes , I am still disgusted that Sinn Fein won't help Jezza out in any votes after all of the gun-running and punishment beatings he has been involved in for them.

[Paul]

On 08/09/2019 at 16:40, Sugar Ape said:

 

Exactly what people used to say about UKIP. Under PR they’d undoubtedly win seats. Under FPTP they’ll massively struggle. 

 

 

Like I said though, if either the Tories or Labour are the biggest party but don’t have a majority or are unable to form a coalition then they’ll never form a government. The other parties will no confidence them straight away and they’d never be able to pass any legislation. 

 

One way or the other, even if it takes another election, we’ll end up with one of the six options in the poll imo.

Not necessarily. A minority government could very well lead us through Brexit and also through various bills on a vote by vote basis. 

[Sugar Ape]

[Carvalho Diablo]

Would love to see Swinson lose her seat then Labour offer a switch to proprtional  representation in order to clinch a rainbow coalition.

 

Follow that by lowering the voting age to 16 and the Tories would be fucked.

[Creator Supreme]

Previous prediction amended as follows:

 

Tories: 400 seats.

Labour: 125 seats.

Lib Dems: 40 seats.

Greens: 1 seat.

DUP: 10 seats.

SNP: 40 seats.

Sinn Fein: 8 seats.

Plaid: 4 seats.

Benefit: 22 seats.

 

I hope I'm as wrong this time as I was in 2017!

 

[Strontium]

With your track record, I shouldn't worry.