Nike deal

[VladimirIlyich]

3 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

 

Fucking looking like Bristol Rovers. 

We'd run out of Gas.

[Stouffer]

It's taken ages to get the shade of red right; they'd better not fuck that up.

[Bjornebye]

On 24/09/2019 at 20:08, dockers_strike said:

We used to play in white socks with red tops. I think they look boss.

 

And if we win the title with them,who'll give a fuck?

If we win the title with white socks they can shove the title up their arses. 

[VladimirIlyich]

9 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

If we win the title with white socks they can shove the title up their arses. 

Mook is in favour of the kit change.

[Bad Red Bull]

10 hours ago, Grinch said:

70 is less than United's. 

Exactly and they are at their lowest point while we are probably close to our highest. Depressing. And our chief just declared we are too of the perch as well..

[Skrtel Milk]

19 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

 

The more fucking annoying thing is that NB have made red socks for this years kit too but that we’re only allowed to wear them if there’s a colour clash with the oppositions socks. 

Evidence for this?

[lifetime fan]

Last nights game. 

[lifetime fan]

1 hour ago, Skrtel Milk said:

Evidence for this?

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jordan-henderson-wearing-different-coloured-20144758.amp

[index1000]

On 24/09/2019 at 13:21, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

A small part of me will die if we get sponsored by Nike

Fucking grow up its a shirt

[Barrington Womble]

I don't think the players are wearing different nb socks as such. We were in the 1st couple of rows in the charity shield. The players aren't wearing what's on sale in the club shop. They have some type of sock on the ankle, then pull an entirely red bandage thing on that has no foot/ankle in it. So when you see the white, it's an ankle sock and when they're redd it's the same. 

 

Edit .... Actually that article above describes it much better than me. 

[Trumo]

The sock is just about the most useless bit of kit in football nowadays. You need a bit of tape around the lower shin to keep the shinpads in place beneath the socks. You need to cut the feet off the socks and wear tennis socks because otherwise there is a lack of grip within the football boot. You need to cut holes in the back of the socks to allow your calf muscles to breathe and reduce tension when they're working. The big brands like Nike haven't yet come up with a solution, as evidenced by their products being hacked to bits to provide the right amount of comfort for the players.

 

And that's before the manufacturers do stupid shit like half-and-half socks that clash and require a solid colour alternative, when the alternative should have been the only option in the first place.

[jacco maccaco]

19 hours ago, Bad Red Bull said:

Exactly and they are at their lowest point while we are probably close to our highest. Depressing. And our chief just declared we are too of the perch as well..

Uniteds deal is Champions League dependent though.

2 straight years out of the CL and it reduces by 30%

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/adidas-clause-could-cost-manchester-16927708

 

[kemskem]

On 25/09/2019 at 20:41, VladimirIlyich said:

We'd run out of Gas.

I went in the Bristol Rovers end once as a youth and everyone was shouting "Come on the Gas". One of the most bizarre experiences I've ever had.

[dockers_strike]

3 minutes ago, kemskem said:

I went in the Bristol Rovers end once as a youth and everyone was shouting "Come on the Gas". One of the most bizarre experiences I've ever had.

 

Its their nick name because Eastville, their old ground, used to be close to the city gas works. Apparently you could smell the town gas when the wind was in the right direction.

 

Bristol City used to call them 'gas heads' by way of an insult but the rovers fans adopted it for themselves.

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

11 hours ago, index1000 said:

Fucking grow up its a shirt

Seriously you fucking bellend. Oh yes I'll be hunched up in a corner sobbing my eyes out over a fucking shirt deal. 

[Caramac]

[Trumo]

7 minutes ago, Caramac said:

 

Is he sure that it isn't £30m on top of whatever NB are currently paying (around £45m), plus all the additional promotion etc? I only ask because Chelsea and Spurs each signed with Nike a couple of years ago, and they are guaranteed a lot more than £30m a year (£60m and £40-45m respectively). Arsenal's new deal with Adidas is also around £60m a year. Man City's new deal with Puma guarantees around £50m a year. Man Utd's Adidas deal guarantees up to £60m a year in a worst case scenario where they go 2 seasons without CL football. Based on the number quoted by Joyce, the Nike deal would be nowhere near a record deal for us (which is what had been suggested everywhere) because the guaranteed sum is much lower than what we currently get from NB.

[index1000]

10 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Seriously you fucking bellend. Oh yes I'll be hunched up in a corner sobbing my eyes out over a fucking shirt deal. 

My mistake taking the words you used to you know, mean what they say. 

[Mudface]

17 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

 

Its their nick name because Eastville, their old ground, used to be close to the city gas works. Apparently you could smell the town gas when the wind was in the right direction.

 

Bristol City used to call them 'gas heads' by way of an insult but the rovers fans adopted it for themselves.

I was a steward for a couple of seasons when they played at Twerton in the '90s. Good fun, until they went something stupid like 12 games without a win at the start of a season, and went through 4 managers in a few months. I think one of the Twerton stands got burned down by City fans that season too, although it might have been earlier They still managed to beat City 4-0, and I had to be dragged out of the gap between the two sets of fans by the police as the City fans swarmed over the fence after the fourth goal went in.

[Barrington Womble]

19 minutes ago, Trumo said:

 

Is he sure that it isn't £30m on top of whatever NB are currently paying (around £45m), plus all the additional promotion etc? I only ask because Chelsea and Spurs each signed with Nike a couple of years ago, and they are guaranteed a lot more than £30m a year (£60m and £40-45m respectively). Arsenal's new deal with Adidas is also around £60m a year. Man City's new deal with Puma guarantees around £50m a year. Man Utd's Adidas deal guarantees up to £60m a year in a worst case scenario where they go 2 seasons without CL football. Based on the number quoted by Joyce, the Nike deal would be nowhere near a record deal for us (which is what had been suggested everywhere) because the guaranteed sum is much lower than what we currently get from NB.

It explains why we've been leaking to the press for a year about this. Obviously this is just a base price, but becomes pretty easy for NB to match. And how do you quantify the promotion from nike's individual stars? How do you quantify the royalties bit? They have a bigger reach the NB, so you would imagine we could sell way more with them than NB. I think when we were with adidas, there was an interview with the Spanish fellas (who were also with Spain) that when they were doing a Spain promo, Adidas told them we were their biggest selling kit, beyond Madrid and Germany. We're pretty low down now, massively out sold by Chelsea,. That has to be down to years of neglect under warrior and NB

 

[Tony Moanero]

10 hours ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

Seriously you fucking bellend. Oh yes I'll be hunched up in a corner sobbing my eyes out over a fucking shirt deal. 

Come on, Jimmy, you know your matchday attire is comprised of a replica shirt worn over your Ethel Austin padded coat.

[Reckoner]

God socks make me so angry 

Grrrrrrr

[Anubis]

This is boring. Any chance you boys can put a sock in it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’ll get me coat.

[Sugar Ape]

Full Times article 

 

 

Liverpool’s proposed new kit deal with Nike is only worth a guaranteed £30 million per year, according to High Court papers seen by The Times.
 

On top of that agreement, there is a commitment from the American sportswear manufacturers to pay the club a 20 per cent royalty on net sales of Liverpool Football Club products and promote the club through stars like tennis player Serena Williams and musician Drake.
 

The base figure is surprising and less than the present £45 million-a-year deal with New Balance, which has commenced legal proceedings against the Anfield club claiming it can match Nike’s terms.

 

It is also below the £50 million-plus-a-year deals negotiated by Premier League rivals Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur with Nike, and also the £71 million-a-year agreement Nike struck with Paris Saint-Germain in the summer.

 

However, Liverpool believe Nike can “deliver far greater total revenue for the club than has been generated by the present deal with New Balance, because of the royalties that will be generated by Nike’s extensive distribution network.”
 

The Anfield hierarchy is essentially backing the success manager Jürgen Klopp is driving on the pitch in transforming the club into Champions League winners, and Premier League leaders, to continue. Shirt sales increase with on-field success.

 

The battle to manufacture Liverpool’s kit from 2020-21 is to be settled by a High Court judge next month after New Balance said it can replicate the “material, measurable and matchable terms of the Nike” deal.

 

It alleges Liverpool are in breach of a matching clause agreement allowing it to extend its contract to manufacture the kit. 
 

Papers served to the commercial court of the High Court reveal the £30 million figure and also that Nike would plan to market Liverpool through initiatives which feature not less than three “non-football global superstar athletes and influencers of the calibre of” Williams, Drake and LeBron James.
 

James, who plays basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers, is a minor shareholder in Liverpool.

 

The court papers outline that Liverpool’s desire to ditch New Balance and switch to Nike is linked to distribution of the new kit.

 

Liverpool entered into exclusive negotiations with New Balance in 2018 with regard to an extension of the existing contract, which focused on New Balance’s ability to “improve its global distribution network.”
 

The club commissioned an independent review into New Balance by Deloitte which concluded Nike could “super charge distribution in a way challenger brands [like New Balance] are not able to do.”

 

Nike has said it will distribute a new kit through “6,000 global doors” with New Balance having not exceeded “3,000 global doors.”

 

However, New Balance insists it can match the same deal as Nike and believe it has proved it can meet demand when the club is thriving on the pitch, having delivered two of the biggest selling home kits for Liverpool fans.

 

In a statement at the start of the week, a spokesman for New Balance added it would “continue to match the ambition and achievements of the club as it grows from strength to strength.” A three-day trial has been listed from October 18.

[lifetime fan]

Don’t Nike usually keep all royalties from kit sales? 

 

Is that why the base figure is lower but we’d then receive 20% of all merchandise sales on top?