Jeffery Epstein & Friends

[redheart]

Jan Moir has rapidly changed her mind

 

JAN MOIR: If you strip away the private jets from Ghislaine Maxwell, it's Rotherham all over again | Daily Mail Online

[VladimirIlyich]

Just now, redheart said:

Jan Moir has rapidly changed her mind

 

JAN MOIR: If you strip away the private jets from Ghislaine Maxwell, it's Rotherham all over again | Daily Mail Online

Isn't that what women generally do?

[Anubis]

3 minutes ago, redheart said:

Jan Moir has rapidly changed her mind

 

JAN MOIR: If you strip away the private jets from Ghislaine Maxwell, it's Rotherham all over again | Daily Mail Online

The current 7 comments under that. Top nonce-sympathising  from Agatha and Lord Andrew.

 

• dolliblu, Kendal, United Kingdom, about 19 hours ago
   
  If she does receive the proposed sentence it makes a mockery of some of the sentences handed out in the UK.
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  Agatha88, Venice, Italy, a day ago
   
  The comparison to Rochdale and Rotherham are wrong. Those girls were much younger, social services and the police were invited to help the girls and did nothing. The girls around Epstein were a bit older, and not impoverished. One was 22! None of them phoned the police. Stick to facts.
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  Jeremiah, Heaven on Earth, United Kingdom, a day ago
   
  Yeah, perhaps, but she will be treated a lot less leniently than the gangs!
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• lord andrew, england, United Kingdom, a day ago
   
  We act with glee when the powerful fall
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• embankment, westhoughton, United Kingdom, a day ago
   
  Not quite
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• Phoric, England, United Kingdom, a day ago
   
  Nothing really changes.
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[Chocoholic]

Yeah, strip away the private jets... and you're left with a multimillion dollar financier and his 'Pied Piper' partner with the patronage of princes, presidents, eminent judges, top level government officials and who knows what other senior figures in the spheres of business and entertainment. This was not a back street sideshow in a grim Northern town. It was a highly organised and lucrative operation on a private island with no end of willing participants offering huge sums of money, and whatever protection they could authorise, to Epstein, so that his, and their secrets, would not be exposed.

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Not a good look this, like... 

 

 

[halewood pete]

[Barrington Womble]

40 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Not a good look this, like... 

 

 

How did Andrew get to find out about the settlement that giuffre signed with Epstein? My understanding is that was a confidential document, so if it's been leaked, would it not automatically invalidate it? 

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

How did Andrew get to find out about the settlement that giuffre signed with Epstein? My understanding is that was a confidential document, so if it's been leaked, would it not automatically invalidate it? 

It was released.

[Barrington Womble]

43 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

It was released.

Who by? It would seem to me the only people who should have known about it are the legal teams, Epstein and giuffre. I don't see how it would have benefited her to release it? 

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Who by? It would seem to me the only people who should have known about it are the legal teams, Epstein and giuffre. I don't see how it would have benefited her to release it? 

It’s existence isn’t a secret, the contents was. 
 

Looks like most commentators are saying he’s only got a slim hope.  

[TheHowieLama]

15 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Who by? It would seem to me the only people who should have known about it are the legal teams, Epstein and giuffre. I don't see how it would have benefited her to release it? 

Federal judge - last week.

[Anubis]

I was reading Adam Klasfeld’s thread earlier and the judge was shooting down Andy’s lawyer at every turn. My favourite line being “that dog won’t hunt here.”

[Barrington Womble]

42 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

It’s existence isn’t a secret, the contents was. 
 

Looks like most commentators are saying he’s only got a slim hope.  

 

34 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Federal judge - last week.

Oh ok, so we're supposed to think Andrew's legal team knew about it, but didn't have a clue about its contents? But this defence of "the legal agreement gets Andrew off" is not new is it? I was sure I heard that before. 

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

Oh ok, so we're supposed to think Andrew's legal team knew about it, but didn't have a clue about its contents? But this defence of "the legal agreement gets Andrew off" is not new is it? I was sure I heard that before. 

I think there have always been major issues with certain individuals protection and the jurisdiction of the agreement.

 

@Anubis?

[Anubis]

22 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I think there have always been major issues with certain individuals protection and the jurisdiction of the agreement.

 

@Anubis?

 

No idea. You have clearly paid more attention to it than I have!

 

From my brief reading there appear to be a number of issues - can an agreement in Florida bind the courts in New York, was Andy Pandy properly served, and the language of the clause surrounding potential defendants.

 

EDIT: Decent write up on today’s proceedings here.

 

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/not-a-dog-thats-going-to-hunt-judge-appears-skeptical-of-prince-andrews-attempt-to-dismiss-suit-accusing-him-of-sexually-abusing-a-17-year-old/

[Anubis]

At this rate Her Maj may have to send MI6 to off Guffrie.

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Not a good look this, like... 

 

 

He will pull anything he can to try and get off.

The mail was claiming the other week she was a money grabber.

I like the west every report concludes with prince andrew maintains his innocence,as if that is the end of the matter.

[Bjornebye]

So an “innocent” man is hiding behind this loophole 

 

 

 

 

 

[Anubis]

One of the jury in the Maxwell trial has done interviews with news outlets disclosing sexual abuse in their past. Maxwell’s lawyers gearing up for a retrial application as it looks like the juror may not have disclosed it in the juror questionnaire.

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Anubis said:

One of the jury in the Maxwell trial has done interviews with news outlets disclosing sexual abuse in their past. Maxwell’s lawyers gearing up for a retrial application as it looks like the juror may not have disclosed it in the juror questionnaire.

Her memory could have been jarred when they called up their expert on false memory.

[Bjornebye]

26 minutes ago, Anubis said:

One of the jury in the Maxwell trial has done interviews with news outlets disclosing sexual abuse in their past. Maxwell’s lawyers gearing up for a retrial application as it looks like the juror may not have disclosed it in the juror questionnaire.

I did wonder when I saw some of his interview if it was a conflict of interest or whatever the term would be. 

[Anubis]

It appears McFuckwit has been telling the media some jurors were unsure of convicting and he used his personal experience to persuade them. Another dickhead wanting his five minutes of fame.

[redheart]

If he has lied on the Jury Selection questions he has more than 5 minutes of fame to worry about

[sir roger]

I imagined jurors were unable to discuss what goes on in the jury room.

 

I have hidden for 20 years my part in getting 30 hours community service for a guy shoplifting in QS Discounts in Kirkby Town Centre. I'm ready to cash in.

[Bjornebye]

Would you put it past him being a deflection ?