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[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I'm impressed that so many of you are coming out so far left on the axis, dare I ask what responses you need to give to achieve that?

Its a fair point. A lot of Ric from the young ones in the thread above.

 

Ask a few of the self judged  bottom left self called socialists about the immediate renationalistion of the railways ( 1.8 million fares a day)  and they seem to think it's not that important.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Yes, a huge amount of the questions were just along the lines of "do you reckon corporations should bum the whole world?".

 

 

Yeah, nuanced it ain’t. Not thinking businesses should be allowed to dump waste or that they’re more important than... everything... isn’t akin to being a commie nut job. 

[Jairzinho]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, nuanced it ain’t. Not thinking businesses should be allowed to dump waste or that they’re more important than... everything... isn’t akin to being a commie nut job. 

Like you, I'm not quite sure how anyone managed to be deemed even a centrist on this thing.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Its a fair point. A lot of Ric from the young ones in the thread above.

 

Ask a few of the self judged  bottom left self called socialists about the immediate renationalistion of the railways ( 1.8 million fares a day)  and they seem to think it's not that important.

I’m not sure if you’re the biggest, most unlikable cunt on the forum or if it’s Mr Pink/Daisy. It’s a hard one to call. At least Daisy isn’t completely illiterate on top of his astounding ignorance, unlike you. 

[Gnasher]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives_(2004_film)

[Strontium]

Looking specifically at the economic-themed questions, as that presumably is responsible for the variance on the left-right axis:

 

Some responses are pretty straightforward I would have thought, for instance I imagine everyone here would agree with Question 1-1 that globalisation should primarily serve people rather than corporations.

 

I also agreed with 2-3 ("Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation"), 2-12 ("Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public") and 2-13 ("A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies"). I disagreed with 2-9 ("The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders") and 2-10 ("The rich are too highly taxed"). Again, I think these sentiments would be almost universal on here.

 

I disagreed with 2-4 ("'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea") because I'm not a Marxist. I suspect agreeing with this one pushes you left on the axis somewhat. I also disagreed with 2-6 ("Land shouldn’t be a commodity to be bought and sold") and 2-8 ("Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade"). I'm presuming people here largely agreed with some/all of these, given where you're all ending up.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Looking specifically at the economic-themed questions, as that presumably is responsible for the variance on the left-right axis:

 

Some responses are pretty straightforward I would have thought, for instance I imagine everyone here would agree with Question 1-1 that globalisation should primarily serve people rather than corporations.

 

I also agreed with 2-3 ("Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation"), 2-12 ("Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public") and 2-13 ("A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies"). I disagreed with 2-9 ("The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders") and 2-10 ("The rich are too highly taxed"). Again, I think these sentiments would be almost universal on here.

 

I disagreed with 2-4 ("'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea") because I'm not a Marxist. I suspect agreeing with this one pushes you left on the axis somewhat. I also disagreed with 2-6 ("Land shouldn’t be a commodity to be bought and sold") and 2-8 ("Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade"). I'm presuming people here largely agreed with some/all of these, given where you're all ending up.

Wibble 

[Gnasher]

16 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I’m not sure if you’re the biggest, most unlikable cunt on the forum or if it’s Mr Pink/Daisy. It’s a hard one to call. At least Daisy isn’t completely illiterate on top of his astounding ignorance, unlike you. 

Shut up rik 

[Gnasher]

32 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Like you, I'm not quite sure how anyone managed to be deemed even a centrist on this thing.

Do you pair disagree on anything?

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Looking specifically at the economic-themed questions, as that presumably is responsible for the variance on the left-right axis:

 

Some responses are pretty straightforward I would have thought, for instance I imagine everyone here would agree with Question 1-1 that globalisation should primarily serve people rather than corporations.

 

I also agreed with 2-3 ("Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation"), 2-12 ("Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public") and 2-13 ("A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies"). I disagreed with 2-9 ("The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders") and 2-10 ("The rich are too highly taxed"). Again, I think these sentiments would be almost universal on here.

 

I disagreed with 2-4 ("'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea") because I'm not a Marxist. I suspect agreeing with this one pushes you left on the axis somewhat. I also disagreed with 2-6 ("Land shouldn’t be a commodity to be bought and sold") and 2-8 ("Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade"). I'm presuming people here largely agreed with some/all of these, given where you're all ending up.

Differed on three of the above. Although I suspect my use of ‘strongly’ on some of the top ones we agreed were something to do with me being further left. The places we differed: I agreed (not strongly) with 2-4, as I think it is *fundamentally* a good idea, although it’s not a strict rule to which we must abide. 2-6, I agreed that it shouldn’t. For me, that’s a general view that the Earth, as part of the wider reality of the universe (sorry... I know), should be ‘owned’ by anybody. It’s not like I’d change anything if I was a PM though. I agreed with 2-8 on Protectionism being ‘sometimes’ necessary, because, well, sometimes it is. Some protectionist measures ‘sometimes’ are needed. But if that is taken as ‘in favour of all aspects of protectionism at all times’ then I’m obviously not. 

 

 

[KMD7]

1 hour ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I'm impressed that so many of you are coming out so far left on the axis, dare I ask what responses you need to give to achieve that?

I don't really understand politics to the extent a lot of people do on here. I just tried to answer as honestly as I could. My score was pretty much the same as it was 5 years ago.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I'm impressed that so many of you are coming out so far left on the axis, dare I ask what responses you need to give to achieve that?

Agree with some things and disagree with others, I suppose. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Its a fair point. A lot of Ric from the young ones in the thread above.

 

Ask a few of the self judged  bottom left self called socialists about the immediate renationalistion of the railways ( 1.8 million fares a day)  and they seem to think it's not that important.

Did you do the test? You do know that where you land on the chart is dependent on the answers you give? It's not "self-judged" at all.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives_(2004_film)

Negged for linking to the remake.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I disagreed with 2-4 ("'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea") because I'm not a Marxist.

 

Think I disagreed with that too, mainly because Marx should've shaved his beard off. It was a poor attempt at copying Bakunin's beard and he should've been fucking called out on it at the time.

[moof]

9 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Think I disagreed with that too, mainly because Marx should've shaved his beard off. It was a poor attempt at copying Bakunin's beard and he should've been fucking called out on it at the time.

Hahaha

 

”because I’m not a Marxist” bet Rico jizzed himself at that 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Looking specifically at the economic-themed questions, as that presumably is responsible for the variance on the left-right axis:

 

Some responses are pretty straightforward I would have thought, for instance I imagine everyone here would agree with Question 1-1 that globalisation should primarily serve people rather than corporations.

 

I also agreed with 2-3 ("Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation"), 2-12 ("Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public") and 2-13 ("A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies"). I disagreed with 2-9 ("The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders") and 2-10 ("The rich are too highly taxed"). Again, I think these sentiments would be almost universal on here.

 

I disagreed with 2-4 ("'from each according to his ability, to each according to his need' is a fundamentally good idea") because I'm not a Marxist. I suspect agreeing with this one pushes you left on the axis somewhat. I also disagreed with 2-6 ("Land shouldn’t be a commodity to be bought and sold") and 2-8 ("Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade"). I'm presuming people here largely agreed with some/all of these, given where you're all ending up.

Never read any Marx, but 2.4 is just basic decency, really. 

 

I disagreed with 2.6 and 2.8, too. Some land should be common, some can be privately owned.  Protectionism is often necessary in the early stages of a country's economic development. 

[Jairzinho]

Yes, I'm not sure you need to be a Marxist to agree with it, generally, in principle.

 

 

 

[Strontium]

If you look at where the phrase comes from, it's clearly associated with Marx.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs

 

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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program. The principle refers to free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services. In the Marxist view, such an arrangement will be made possible by the abundance of goods and services that a developed communist system will be capable to produce; the idea is that, with the full development of socialism and unfettered productive forces, there will be enough to satisfy everyone's needs.

[TheHowieLama]

Marx was also pretty clear on ownership of property (land). It belongs to the state.

That is not the same thing as agreeing with 2-6.

In fact it is diametrically opposed to it.

[Jairzinho]

7 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

If you look at where the phrase comes from, it's clearly associated with Marx.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_needs

 

Nobody was denying that.

 

Just that you don't need to be a Marxist to agree with it.

[moof]

Marx liked dogs, I like dogs = I am a Marxist 

[Pureblood]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Shut up rik 

 

It's... it's "Rrrrick". 

[Pureblood]

4 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I'm impressed that so many of you are coming out so far left on the axis, dare I ask what responses you need to give to achieve that?

The correct responses.

[TheHowieLama]

I ended up right next to Gandhi - one tick to the right. As a misogynistic, nazi/fascist sociopath I can attest to this survey.