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1 hour ago, suzy said:

Giggs is saying James was ‘using his nous’ and was pretending to be knocked out. Wtf!

 

Harry Kane uses his nous a lot then.

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13 hours ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Emre Can sent off for Germany. He's not having a good time of it lately, the show pony. I need Germany to win by 2 goals and if they don't I'll send him a flying headbutt. 

Turned out nice again

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1 hour ago, suzy said:

Giggs is saying James was ‘using his nous’ and was pretending to be knocked out. Wtf!

It typifies football's lackadaisical attitude toward concussion that a manager could even consider saying something like that. 

 

A comment like that would get you dragged over the coals in almost any footballing code here. Unbelievable. 

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Reminds of me of the time I jumped from a wall and broke both ankles but instead of going to the hospital, I used my nous and just crawled along the ground for a few months.

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17 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

I didn't see any of the Wales v Croatia game, so what advantage was gained, and in what circumstances, by him 'using his nous'?

The diving little shitbag, who has been booked a couple of times this season for simulation, was fouled and went down like he had been knocked out and had a head injury, stayed down, accepted treatment while telling the physios and medical staff that he just wanted to stay still. 
 

the Croatia player got booked ( it was a booking ) the crowd were up, the welsh players had a rest. 
 

it’s bad form to feign injury in the hope that a player gets sent off, but remember this is now called “ using your nous” and being “ streetwise “ 

 

lets see if the same language is used when one of those dirty foreigners does it. 
 

I already hate this little cunt and would love to kick him in the bollocks 

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1 hour ago, Chocoholic said:

I didn't see any of the Wales v Croatia game, so what advantage was gained, and in what circumstances, by him 'using his nous'?

I THINK Wales scored the equaliser in the E/T that was added on!

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Feigning injury has become part of the game, although it's usually reserved for the holding of a leg while rolling around, with immediate recovery once a card is issued. 

 

It's a slippery slope when players think that feigning a head injury can be used as a tactic for the team having a breather, and to be praised as 'using their nous' by a manager. All players of any sport who've legitimately suffered concussion or any head injury, and all sports physicians and neurologists should be crying blue murder at this.

 

It's not an in play tactic. It's not something to be crying wolf about. Anybody who takes a blow to the head and needs to be treated for that long on the pitch should be taken off immediately without question as a law of the game. It's not their call to say they're alright or not. To be tempting fate in this way is bad Karma that's going to come back and bite them on the arse at some point, sooner or later.

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8 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

It's a slippery slope when players think that feigning a head injury can be used as a tactic for the team having a breather, and to be praised as 'using their nous' by a manager.

 

Mourinho since around 2003.

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17 minutes ago, Chocoholic said:

It's a slippery slope when players think that feigning a head injury can be used as a tactic for the team having a breather, and to be praised as 'using their nous' by a manager. All players of any sport who've legitimately suffered concussion or any head injury, and all sports physicians and neurologists should be crying blue murder at this.

The lad who played for spurs and hull who had to retire early due to a fractured skull has made his feelings known re this. 
 

I think he was being diplomatic by sort of placing the blame on the medical staff for leaving him on rather than blaming the cheating little cunt who plays for the mancs 

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49 minutes ago, Trumo said:

 

Mourinho since around 2003.

I was going to say Giggs got the ‘streetwise’ bit from Fergie!

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40 minutes ago, Marko121 said:

The lad who played for spurs and hull who had to retire early due to a fractured skull has made his feelings known re this. 
 

I think he was being diplomatic by sort of placing the blame on the medical staff for leaving him on rather than blaming the cheating little cunt who plays for the mancs 

Is it Headway? Something like that (brain injury people) have criticised it on Sky too.

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The diving little rat is nailed on to dive for a pen on Sunday have it waved away by ref then being given by VAR (first one?)

 

Someone/something has to arrest the mancs slide and what better game to do it....

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There is no question that James was concussed - he was knocked cold regardless of what he or Giggs says -- you can see that.

 

Then Giggs suggested:

 

"When the physios came over there was no problem, and what you have to do now is do the tests at half-time. He passed all the concussion tests," said the Wales manager.

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One of the Croatian players definitely thought he was out cold, the way he reacted by immediately running over to him and waving for the physios. I guess next time he'll just play on.

 

Hopefully James' airway isn't blocked.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

There is no question that James was concussed - he was knocked cold regardless of what he or Giggs says -- you can see that.

 

Then Giggs suggested:

 

"When the physios came over there was no problem, and what you have to do now is do the tests at half-time. He passed all the concussion tests," said the Wales manager.

Even that isn't enough though. This clip was a halftime interview of an Aussie Rules game a few years back. The way he starts to feel the effect of his head knock halfway through a sentence is a little scary.

 

 

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Of course it is not enough -- it is laughable to suggest waiting!

 

Certainly they could set up something similar to what the NFL does and have a proper concussion check either in an area just off the field or in the tunnel. It takes them like two minutes to do it.

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If he was genuinely out cold, then all the attention should be on Giggs for trivialising it in such a way using such language. If a player is knocked out, they're not using their head, their nous or anything else if they're unconscious. All the more reason to get them off for their own protection. Counting a few fucking fingers, or whatever it is they do, at half time, does not constitute an adequate assessment of a player's cognitive abilities after a knockout has rendered them unconscious.

 

Why are such liberties taken when there's a head injury? If a player suspects they may have a bodily injury, even if it only turns out to be a dead leg, or bruise they'll go off, as a precaution. They'll usually go for scans, even if to only confirm the suspicion that it's not as bad as feared. How then, can a head injury which causes actual unconsciousness be blithely dismissed, as a cursory half time check in a dressing room, and allow the player continue playing? It's insane!

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2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

There is no question that James was concussed - he was knocked cold regardless of what he or Giggs says -- you can see that.

 

Then Giggs suggested:

 

"When the physios came over there was no problem, and what you have to do now is do the tests at half-time. He passed all the concussion tests," said the Wales manager.

And you never shagged your brothers wife either Ryan.

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