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Other Football - 2019/20


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3 hours ago, Lee909 said:

The balls been played backwards there, so surely he is on. Hasn't it always been a forward pass? 

Yes, always.

 

These officials though, including the twat on BT just making shit up as they went along, to try and save face but only served to dig themselves, and the rulebook itself, into collosal hole, brim full of shite.

 

They don't even know the fucking rules!!!

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9 hours ago, Lee909 said:

The balls been played backwards there, so surely he is on. Hasn't it always been a forward pass? 

I thought that was just a rugby rule. I don't think there is any exception for a backward pass. If the player receiving the ball is ahead of the ball when it is played, then it's offside. The receiving player has to be behind the ball when it is played.

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6 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Yes, always.

 

These officials though, including the twat on BT just making shit up as they went along, to try and save face but only served to dig themselves, and the rulebook itself, into collosal hole, brim full of shite.

 

They don't even know the fucking rules!!!


Actually, they do. From the FA website.
 

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A player is in an offside position if:

  • any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
  • any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
  • The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.

A player is not in an offside position if level with the:

  • second-last opponent or
  • last two opponents


When the ball is played back from the corner, Jota’s foot becomes nearer to the goal line than both the ball and second-last opponent, so when he moves from that position to collect the ball, he comes back from an offside position to do so. A bit like a striker coming back from an offside position to collect/head a goal kick.

 

Its one of those outlier situations that almost never come up, and wouldn’t have been noticed without VAR, but it is the correct decision.

 

The way forward is to change it so it’s similar to a throw in. You can’t be offside from a throw in so maybe say you can’t be offside from the initial corner kick?

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48 minutes ago, Anubis said:


Actually, they do. From the FA website.
 


When the ball is played back from the corner, Jota’s foot becomes nearer to the goal line than both the ball and second-last opponent, so when he moves from that position to collect the ball, he comes back from an offside position to do so. A bit like a striker coming back from an offside position to collect/head a goal kick.

 

Its one of those outlier situations that almost never come up, and wouldn’t have been noticed without VAR, but it is the correct decision.

 

The way forward is to change it so it’s similar to a throw in. You can’t be offside from a throw in so maybe say you can’t be offside from the initial corner kick?

This needs reviewing as The FA's website clearly states that it is NOT an offence to simply be in an offside position...The player mentioned is in an offside position but is he doing any of the following?

 

  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

 

Offside position

It is not an offence to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:

  • any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
  • any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
  • The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.

A player is not in an offside position if level with the:

  • second-last opponent or
  • last two opponents

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:

  • interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
  • interfering with an opponent by:
  • preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
  • challenging an opponent for the ball or
  • clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
  • making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball

*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

or

  • gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
  • rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
  • been deliberately saved by any opponent
  • A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.

A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).

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7 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Southamptons stadium is empty.

 

They are playing Burnley mate. Seriously though, pathetic how empty it is for a weekend afternoon game. 

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7 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

I thought that was just a rugby rule. I don't think there is any exception for a backward pass. If the player receiving the ball is ahead of the ball when it is played, then it's offside. The receiving player has to be behind the ball when it is played.

Yeah I was wrong on that 

Getting mixed up, thinking of a player playing the ball backwards to a player behind them but still offside(as in ahead of the defenders) 

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