Do you think we should have a 2nd referendum on Brexit?

[Trumo]

The global political landscape over the past 10 years has shown that people will simply double down on stupid.

[mattyq]

If there's another ref think Remain will win comfortably 

Even my dad has changed his mind and says he'll vote Remain

Brexit was always a Tory project and has become even more lunatic as time progresses. 

With some decent leadership we can fuck Brexit off for good.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, mattyq said:

If there's another ref think Remain will win comfortably 

Even my dad has changed his mind and says he'll vote Remain

Brexit was always a Tory project and has become even more lunatic as time progresses. 

With some decent leadership we can fuck Brexit off for good.

This is where Corbyn missed a trick. He should have gone for the jugular 7/8 weeks ago when May was getting the tories some heavy twattings in the commons. 

[magicrat]

17 hours ago, Boss said:

 

I'd say the vast majority of the people interviewed in the aftermath of the referendum (that were open about voting leave) used either sovereignty or immigration as the principle reason for doing so. It's impossible to control immigration within the single market because it's prerequisite is free movement of people. It's impossible to have full control over our laws when our tariffs and regulations (for all kinds of things) are decided by the EU. This is just common sense.

 

So whether they connected the dots or not is irrelevant. They voted for what would now be deemed a hard Brexit. 

It's not irrelevant. Outcomes were clear on Remain and far from it for those voting leave which 3 years on we need to have a second referendum.

[Megadrive Man]

10 hours ago, mattyq said:

If there's another ref think Remain will win comfortably 

Even my dad has changed his mind and says he'll vote Remain

Brexit was always a Tory project and has become even more lunatic as time progresses. 

With some decent leadership we can fuck Brexit off for good.

 

I think remain would win by a small margin, and then all the Brexiteers would constantly complain for the foreseeable future, and Farage would continue to rise etc.

 

The only way you could realistically call another referendum now is if you were confident Remain would win by at least a two thirds share of the vote, which it won't. 

[Megadrive Man]

10 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

This is where Corbyn missed a trick. He should have gone for the jugular 7/8 weeks ago when May was getting the tories some heavy twattings in the commons. 

If he came out heavily in favour or remain Labour would lose millions of voters and make it easy for the tories to paint him as the brexit blocking villain. 

[Strontium]

They've lost millions of voters already. And I'm pretty sure the Tories are attacking him already.

[Megadrive Man]

Unlike some of the smaller parties that have no hope of ever winning an election, Labour realise that they need both leave and remain voters to vote for them. If they can appeal to more of these voters than the Torys can, they are more likely to win an election.

 

See Peterborough by-election as an example.

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Unlike some of the smaller parties that have no hope of ever winning an election

 

Somebody hasn't noticed that Labour are hardly trouncing my "small party" in the polls, quite clearly.

[polymerpunkah]

You can lose votes temporarily, and you can lose votes permanently.

 

If anyone should realize that, it should be a member of the LibDems.

 

 

[s(k)aturation]

On 18/06/2019 at 07:06, RedKnight said:

The irony of someone having a Springsteen avatar and name and espousing views like that.

 

I know.

Demeaning the image/moniker of a filthy rich, privileged American rock star like that.

Deplorable.

He is a fantastic lyricist and singer, mind.  Springsteen I mean, not Boss.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

11 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

They've lost millions of voters already. 

Have they, though?

 

I'm not convinced that Labour wouldn't do better in a new General Election than they did in 2017.

 

[Pureblood]

11 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

They've lost millions of voters already. And I'm pretty sure the Tories are attacking him already.

Piss off, fuckface. 

[Rotpeter]

15 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Piss off, fuckface. 

"Blow me, fuckface" is the correct nomenclature.