Jurgen Norbert Klopp

[KMD7]

21 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

Argh Bumcunt, you've got to be a subscriber to read that.

Worked for me Shep. Give it another go?

 

Edit. Actually on second reading it won't open. Don't know what's up there

[Carvalho Diablo]

2 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

Worked for me Shep. Give it another go?

 

Edit. Actually on second reading it won't open. Don't know what's up there

Is this a trap?

[Barrington Womble]

On 14/04/2022 at 21:24, gkmacca said:

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Buvac leaving because of the growing influence of someone who'd already left, I repeat, doesn't make sense. So I need to take that up with Klopp, do I? I've said elsewhere ages ago that, when Pep returned, Klopp was certainly receptive to fresh ideas, and that shows itself to some extent tactically in the contrast in the two Champions League finals. But if you still can't see why I said your claim was misleading, I'm not sure what else to do but suggest you read it through again, reflect on the timeline, and have a think.

They're klopp's actual words. Take it or leave it. I would imagine if it was in the 6 months pep was away, he was having such a shit time, we'd already agreed to take him back and Buvac knew. Klopp talks about continuity planning all the time, I'm sure klopp and Buvac knew ljinders was coming back way before he arrived. 

[Scott_M]

As great as we are on the pitch these days, all the exciting football, exciting players, challenging for trophies etc, I still think his biggest achievement is the mentality shift. 
 

Let’s face it, when he took over, we were broken. Everything was broken after “the slip”. We were a fragile set of losers, the entire club - supporters, coaching staff & players. 
 

That Villa performance at Wembley was a complete shambles, I can barely remember us ever playing worse, and summed up everything after the 13/14 season.

 

Klopp’s first press conference, doubters into believers and putting our history into a backpack that didn’t weigh us down…he knew what we needed from the first day.
 

Every set back, and there have been some (Wembley, Basel, Kiev, Barca, 97 points to come second etc), could have derailed us but every time we’ve come back stronger. 
 

From a fragile set of pussy’s, to absolute mentality monsters, who never know when their beaten… it’s an unbelievable 180d. 

[Jennings]

42 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

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Klopp’s first press conference, doubters into believers and putting our history into a backpack that didn’t weigh us down…he knew what we needed from the first day.

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That was absolute visionary leadership!

 

The very first thing he wanted to change was from the fans. Nothing to do with club structure or coaching staff or even playing staff.

 

Still blows my mind the things he said on that first day.

 

 

[gkmacca]

He'd clearly be a great boss no matter what profession he was in. He just has that ability to assess a situation, break it down and analyse it, and then work out what to say, and when, and to whom. Crucially as well, he is good at delegating and is happy to do so.

[Elite]

8 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

He'd clearly be a great boss no matter what profession he was in. He just has that ability to assess a situation, break it down and analyse it, and then work out what to say, and when, and to whom. Crucially as well, he is good at delegating and is happy to do so.

He'a also one of those rare enigmatic people that has a certain aura about them. You know the type, the ones you wish you were.

[m0e]

11 hours ago, Elite said:

He'a also one of those rare enigmatic people that has a certain aura about them. You know the type, the ones you wish you were.

This.

 

So let's get Graham fucking Potter in when he leaves!

[aRdja]

3 hours ago, m0e said:

This.

 

So let's get Graham fucking Potter in when he leaves!

Does it matter that much? From all I’ve read, Bob Paisley’s always been described as a gentle, softly-spoken, almost sheepish man. At the same time he’s the club’s most successful manager ever.

[m0e]

4 hours ago, aRdja said:

Does it matter that much? From all I’ve read, Bob Paisley’s always been described as a gentle, softly-spoken, almost sheepish man. At the same time he’s the club’s most successful manager ever.

So Graham Potter is the new Bob Paisley?

 

Cool story, bro.

[deiseach]

On 17/04/2022 at 10:35, Carvalho Diablo said:

Argh Bumcunt, you've got to be a subscriber to read that.

Quote

 

Gotze recalls Klopp F-bomb, tells hair transplant story

 

by Matthew Stead, football365.com

May 20, 2019 09:02 AM

 

Mario Gotze has paid tribute to his former Borussia Dortmund manager Jurgen Klopp, the most “naturally funny” manager in football.

 

Gotze spent four years under Klopp at Dortmund, making his first-team debut for the club in November 2009 and leaving after the Champions League final defeat in May 2013.

 

The 26-year-old became one of the world’s best young talents with the guidance of the Liverpool manager but, save for scoring the winning goal in the 2014 World Cup final, has failed to reach similar heights.

 

Now back at Dortmund, the perennial Liverpool target fondly recalls his time with Klopp, who once gave him the number of his hair transplant doctor.

 

‘He was my first manager, and he was the one who believed in me and gave me the chance to debut at 17 years old,’ he wrote in his Players’ Tribune column.

 

‘It’s funny to see him now with Liverpool, because he’s such a natural guy in front of the media. He’s so authentic and he says whatever he wants. But I think most people just see the version of him standing on the touchline.

 

‘There’s a very serious side as well. When I was 17 or 18, and not giving 100% in training, he would be so intimidating. He used to come running over and get right up in my face and start shouting at me.

 

‘I can’t really translate from German perfectly, but you know how he talks, with his teeth grinding: “You have to have more passion! You have to give everything! F***! Come on!!!”

 

‘Then after training, he would be completely calm again, and he’d take you aside and say, “Mario, how are you? Let’s talk about life. What’s happening?”

 

‘He knew how to handle me. He was an outstanding coach, but his personality was the most important thing for me as a young player. I have never met a manager in football who was so naturally funny. I will never forget the time I ran into him in Dusseldorf during the summer. He was going to see the specialist there to have his hair transplant done.

 

‘This became big news in Germany, but he was so funny about it. He was smiling, telling me all about it – how cool it was going to look and everything. ‘And then as he was leaving, he just gave me a wink and he said, “Mario, don’t worry, I will save the phone number.”

 

‘I said, “What do you mean?”

 

‘He said, “The doctor’s number. I’ll save it for you. In a few years, you might need it.”

 

‘Then he laughed and walked off. Most people would be embarrassed or not say anything, but he didn’t care at all.

 

‘He was such a funny and positive influence on everyone around him. I have to thank him, because he gave me my start, and we achieved some great things together at Dortmund in those years.’

[aRdja]

11 minutes ago, m0e said:

So Graham Potter is the new Bob Paisley?

 

Cool story, bro.

Haha. Why are you being dishonest?
 

It’s great that Jurgen Klopp is charismatic but ultimately what really matters is his quality as a manager not his personality.

[m0e]

4 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Haha. Why are you being dishonest?
 

It’s great that Jurgen Klopp is charismatic but ultimately what really matters is his quality as a manager not his personality.

Give me another example of someone who achieved sustained success at the top level who fits this description.

[Simbo]

aRdja…you haven’t suggested Graham Potter as someone to replace Jurgen have you?

[aRdja]

3 minutes ago, m0e said:

Give me another example of someone who achieved sustained success at the top level who fits this description.

Was Bob Paisley not sufficiently good enough?

[aRdja]

6 minutes ago, Simbo said:

aRdja…you haven’t suggested Graham Potter as someone to replace Jurgen have you?

No. No one really knows yet how good Potter is as a manager, his ‘ceiling’ if you like. He’s proven himself in the PL, but the next step for him would be a bigger club playing in Europe e.g., the likes of Ajax, Valencia, Napoli, Roma, Dortmund, etc. Should he continue on the same upward trajectory then it’d be idiotic to discount him because his apparent lack of charisma is all I’m saying. 

[Carvalho Diablo]

1 hour ago, aRdja said:

Was Bob Paisley not sufficiently good enough?

You're now comparing Graham Potter to Bob Paisley ?!?!

[aRdja]

25 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

You're now comparing Graham Potter to Bob Paisley ?!?!

I gave m0e what he asked; an example of someone who wasn’t very charismatic but was obviously a brilliant football manager. Rafa Benitez would be another one. 

[aws]

I can't believe that someone is seriously suggesting that Potter is better than both  Bob and Rafa. 

[gkmacca]

Any analysis of charisma always ends up with a shoulder shrug.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Ginsoak had zero about him except the standard Gorbals sense of violence; and then he won stuff. He surely wasn't 'inspirational'.

 

Bob Paisley gradually acquired a certain aura as 'wily,' because he won stuff and didn't say much. Joe Fagan just seemed a nice bloke, and he won stuff. Kenny had a strange mixture of intimidating dourness and bursts of pure joy that gave him a powerful aura, and of course he'd been a genius on the pitch.

 

Probably the classic case of someone thinking that they could manufacture charisma, and then start winning stuff, was Brendan Rodgers, who was forever assessing his gestures in a mirror.

 

There is something truly extraordinary and magical about Klopp as a person. You just cannnot fake that. When he goes it will be like listening to the long-fading echo of that piano chord at the end of A Day in the Life.

[m0e]

3 hours ago, gkmacca said:

Any analysis of charisma always ends up with a shoulder shrug.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Ginsoak had zero about him except the standard Gorbals sense of violence; and then he won stuff. He surely wasn't 'inspirational'.

 

Bob Paisley gradually acquired a certain aura as 'wily,' because he won stuff and didn't say much. Joe Fagan just seemed a nice bloke, and he won stuff. Kenny had a strange mixture of intimidating dourness and bursts of pure joy that gave him a powerful aura, and of course he'd been a genius on the pitch.

 

Probably the classic case of someone thinking that they could manufacture charisma, and then start winning stuff, was Brendan Rodgers, who was forever assessing his gestures in a mirror.

 

There is something truly extraordinary and magical about Klopp as a person. You just cannnot fake that. When he goes it will be like listening to the long-fading echo of that piano chord at the end of A Day in the Life.

If you think Ferguson had no charisma, you don't know what charisma is, I'm afraid.

[gkmacca]

1 hour ago, m0e said:

If you think Ferguson had no charisma, you don't know what charisma is, I'm afraid.

I know a damn well sight more than you do about it, 'I'm afraid,' you arrogant fuckwit. Go and read some Weber.

[m0e]

1 hour ago, gkmacca said:

I know a damn well sight more than you do about it, 'I'm afraid,' you arrogant fuckwit. Go and read some Weber.

And this incredible wisdom, ladies and gentlemen (and others), comes from someone who claims to know something about life because he read someone else's experience about life.

[Chairman Meow]

I've got a pair of Weber 40 DCOE carbs on a genuine Irmscher manifold for the Group A Nova Sport I am building, came with the extra bracing bars, linkages and a genuine Sport alternator bracket. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Potsie?