Letter on the offal from a Milwall fan.

[WaltonRed]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N146496041027-1415.htm

[Hermes]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N146496041027-1415.htm

 

"There were many thousands of other fans in the ground who feel the same as myself, that tragedies like Hillsborough should not be used for baiting away support, and I hope that the majority of Liverpool fans can understand that."

 

I wasn't at the game, but I couldn't hear many of the Millwall fans booing during these chants.

[Paul]

Hermes, do have to give a cynical response to everything? The guy wrote, what seems to me, a heartfelt apology. Can't you just respect the sentiment without picking holes in it?

[Tom R]

Hermes, do have to give a cynical response to everything? The guy wrote, what seems to me, a heartfelt apology. Can't you just respect the sentiment without picking holes in it?

 

Spot on. Fair play to the lad.

[Hermes]

My point is if the genuine good natured Millwall fans were so sickened why didn't they show it?

 

I think it was President Kennedy who said "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".

 

Maybe this Millwall fan should be asking his fellow fans why they did nothing, he's not apologising for that is he?.

[Paul]

Hermes, I took your point. I think having a letter published on the widest read football website in the world counts as taking a moral stand. This guy is leading by example - one the FA would do well to look at in embarrasment as, to my mind, it's their silence on this issue that's deafening - not that of the decent Millwall fans (many of whom were there with kids, judging by last night's coverage).

[fivetimes]

For once i agree with hermes. i was there, and i certainly didnt hear them being shouted down. but then i am sure someone will raise the point about our songs previously.

 

they are scum, everyone knows that. ignore them.

[Uncle Travelling Matt]

My point is if the genuine good natured Millwall fans were so sickened why didn't they show it?

 

I think it was President Kennedy who said "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing".

 

Maybe this Millwall fan should be asking his fellow fans why they did nothing, he's not apologising for that is he?.

 

Spot on Hermes, in the 'Gary Neville' FA Cup game at OT a few years back the Munich song started to pick up quite a volume within our end until it was booed out by the majority of our support......this fans apology is a nice gesture but personally I think Hermes is spot on, if the majority of their support is good then they should do something about the knobhead element.

[Hermes]

For once i agree with hermes.

 

Being right for once is a start, keep it up fourtimes. :>)

[Tom R]

Spot on Hermes, in the 'Gary Neville' FA Cup game at OT a few years back the Munich song started to pick up quite a volume within our end until it was booed out by the majority of our support......this fans apology is a nice gesture but personally I think Hermes is spot on, if the majority of their support is good then they should do something about the knobhead element.

 

Millwall have done mroe than probably any other club in the world to eradicate such things from their club. In fact, I wish every club had done half as much!

But when almost the entire support are a bunch of complete pricks it's difficult to get shut of it completely!

 

To be fair to them, Millwall should be commended for the steps they've taken. Still a way to go of course but they've had a fucking good go at it as best they can.

[Uncle Travelling Matt]

Millwall have done mroe than probably any other club in the world to eradicate such things from their club. In fact, I wish every club had done half as much!

But when almost the entire support are a bunch of complete pricks it's difficult to get shut of it completely!

 

To be fair to them, Millwall should be commended for the steps they've taken. Still a way to go of course but they've had a fucking good go at it as best they can.

 

What like? The Chairman denying the songs their fans sing and the manager blaming all trouble on opposition support? The rot seems to run right through the club to me.......

[Paul]

I wasn't there last night and so can not comment on the specific mood. However, I can say that if I was at the match with my son and saw crowd trouble, no matter how serious, whether provoked or otherwise, my only concern would be his safety. I try to be someone who does the right thing and in a similar context to last night, on my own, I'm sure I'd have been someone shouting down the scumbags. Being with your family changes EVERYTHING, and I saw many young kids in the crowd on TV last night - indeed I commented on it at the start of the match to my missus as a positive sign that things must be changing at Millwall.

 

This bloke has publicly said sorry. Maybe he was intimidated from acting at the ground. Who knows? What he did do was publicly state his condemnation. And now he's being castigated for it? The phrase "holier than thou" springs to mind. This guy did what he felt he could. That's good enough for me and more than anyone else seems to have done so far, the FA and police included.

[Uncle Travelling Matt]

This bloke has publicly said sorry. Maybe he was intimidated from acting at the ground. Who knows? What he did do was publicly state his condemnation. And now he's being castigated for it? The phrase "holier than thou" springs to mind. This guy did what he felt he could. That's good enough for me and more than anyone else seems to have done so far, the FA and police included.

 

Noone is castigating him for it, his apology is a nice gesture but as Hermes said if the majority of Millwall fans were as disgusted as him at the singing that represented their supporters then they should have done something about it. For me this guy is representing himself and not most Millwall fans.....

[Anubis]

If we are casting stones (and I don't go to away games so I stand to be corrected) but from what I hear our fans don't boo the Shipman song out of existence. The guy has taken the trouble to write, and I welcome that.

[Uncle Travelling Matt]

If we are casting stones (and I don't go to away games so I stand to be corrected) but from what I hear our fans don't boo the Shipman song out of existence. The guy has taken the trouble to write, and I welcome that.

 

We do boo Munich songs and the condemnation of Shipman songs is becoming more and more widespread.........

[Red Nick]

I fully accept his appology and it was good of him to write

 

The reason that the Millwall fans who apposed the chants probably did not boo was through shear fear that they might be attacked by there own hard core element.

 

I still want Millwall kicked out of football alltogether but that wont happen

[Tim]

There are reports that the guy who got beaten up in the millwall fans section was possibly beaten up because he shouted out against the taunts.

[Kopite]

It wuz a Scarser that wrote it

[dave u]

It wuz a Scarser that wrote it

 

 

They keep denying the chanting, but I've just spoken to John Gallagher who was there, and he says he knows what he heard, and that was songs about Hillsborough. That's good enough for me.

 

Paphitis is a fucking liar, and so are the other gobshites denying it.

[Vincent Vega]

They keep denying the chanting, but I've just spoken to John Gallagher who was there, and he says he knows what he heard, and that was songs about Hillsborough. That's good enough for me.

 

Paphitis is a fucking liar, and so are the other gobshites denying it.

 

Ever since that major riot in that play off game with Birmingham (another shower of pricks) they've been bricking it. They made attendance at matches a members only affair. They know that the next big embarassment is going to cause them a load of grief ie. fines, ground closure etc. so will do anything to pass the buck for trouble on their patch to the away support. That knobhead chairman knows exactly what went on, and the consequences for his club if they get the book thrown at them by the FA (Fucking Arseholes, who will bottle it as always), so does his best to pass the buck.

 

The day Millwall are no longer a blot on the landscape, will be a day for celebration.

[BENIRL]

Fuc em just fuc em, their fans love all this crap, people being pissed at them, bad press this shit about no one likes us blah blah. Long grass dude long fucking grass.