When is Violence Justified?

[moof]

Interesting thread 

 

 

[moof]

Turns out the “concrete” thing looks like bullshit 

 

 

[moof]

[Boss]

37 minutes ago, moof said:

So a fascist provocateur got a black eye? Cry me a fucking river 

 

He sustained a brain haemorrhage.

[moof]

Sure he did

[Boss]

So that's your response. Just denial?

[moof]

If you can prove he suffered a brain haemorrhage, I’ll take it back 

[Boss]

3 minutes ago, moof said:

If you can prove he suffered a brain haemorrhage, I’ll take it back 

 

I'm only going off what he was admitted to hospital for and his attorneys words. 

[Boss]

https://ijr.com/portland-mayor-wheeler-receives-backlash-after-antifa-attacks-reporter/

[moof]

9 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

I'm only going off what he was admitted to hospital for and his attorneys words. 

Fair enough mate. I’m skeptical. These fellas are little more than racist grifters, fascist cheerleaders. I don’t think it’s beyond them to exaggerate the situation (for profit). 

[cloggypop]

So there's no concrete evidence? 

[Rico1304]

There’s also footage of an old bloke getting the shit kicked out of him and a bloke trying to help him being hit over the head with a metal bar.   Portland seems like a weird place as the police were told to stand down.  

[KMD7]

2 hours ago, cloggypop said:

So there's no concrete evidence? 

I'm more of a limecrete man myself. More eco friendly. 

[VladimirIlyich]

12 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

What? You talk bollocks again and it’s me who’s the bad guy.  Fool. 

I was wrong,you need to be watching more porn as opposed to twitter and various 'celebrity news' sources. Make love,not bore.

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 hours ago, moof said:

So a fascist provocateur got a black eye? Cry me a fucking river 

Do you really have no issue with what happened in that video? 

[moof]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Do you really have no issue with what happened in that video? 

It’s a bit uncivilised, but this is not a normal time. I’m happy that we have people organising and getting out on the streets to fight against fascism - physically as well as rhetorically 

[skend04]

Well, if the far right Proud Boys are heading into Portland or anywhere looking for a dust-up and then get their arses handed to them by a bunch of leftie snowflakes, it's all good. 

[VladimirIlyich]

3 minutes ago, moof said:

It’s a bit uncivilised, but this is not a normal time. I’m happy that we have people organising and getting out on the streets to fight against fascism - physically as well as rhetorically 

I understand your point but mob rule from any side is very unsettling. I do hope the backlash against the person being run over during that demonstration(I believe they died?) a while back was as strong as the condemnation of these 'socialists' though?

[moof]

1 minute ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I understand your point but mob rule from any side is very unsettling. I do hope the backlash against the person being run over during that demonstration(I believe they died?) a while back was as strong as the condemnation of these 'socialists' though?

I mean, let’s put it into perspective. Fascists are literally murdering people, going out looking for violence, attacking minorities, being racist etc etc - “Antifa” exist simply in opposition to that, and they punch a few people and throw milkshakes and silly string. There’s no equivalence

[moof]

4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Well, if the far right Proud Boys are heading into Portland or anywhere looking for a dust-up and then get their arses handed to them by a bunch of leftie snowflakes, it's all good. 

Precisely

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, moof said:

I mean, let’s put it into perspective. Fascists are literally murdering people, going out looking for violence, attacking minorities, being racist etc etc - “Antifa” exist simply in opposition to that, and they punch a few people and throw milkshakes and silly string. There’s no equivalence

That guy, to my knowledge, hadn't murdered anybody. From what I've read briefly of his work, he hasn't advocated murdering people or attacking a minorities. He seemed like he was attacked by a mob. Unless I'm mistaken somewhere?

[Dr Nowt]

[Rico1304]

Harmless. 

 

 

[Boss]

36 minutes ago, moof said:

I mean, let’s put it into perspective. Fascists are literally murdering people, going out looking for violence, attacking minorities, being racist etc etc - “Antifa” exist simply in opposition to that, and they punch a few people and throw milkshakes and silly string. There’s no equivalence

 

If Antifa are not going out looking for violence, why do they wear bandanas and hoodies to obscure their faces?

[moof]

17 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

That guy, to my knowledge, hadn't murdered anybody. From what I've read briefly of his work, he hasn't advocated murdering people or attacking a minorities. He seemed like he was attacked by a mob. Unless I'm mistaken somewhere?

He edits far right propaganda rag quilette, his work supposedly contributed to journalists being put on literal nazi kill lists, his racist rhetoric and targeting of CAIR Oregon (centre of American Islamic relations) led to them receiving death threats. He’s a fascist cheerleader, which is an inherently violent thing to be. He was given a black eye for his troubles and has now made hundreds of thousands of dollars from morons who donated to him out of sympathy. Doesn’t sound much like a victim to me