When is Violence Justified?

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, Hand Shandy said:

It's not that hard a question is it?

If Nazis took over would I protest? 

 

Probably not to be honest, I’d protest before they took over but once they were in I’d leave. 

 

If Communists took over would you protest? 

 

[Fugitive]

You’re all a gang of whinging cunts... fuck off.

[Pureblood]

5 minutes ago, Fugitive said:

You’re all a gang of whinging cunts... fuck off.

Make me.  And then justify it.

[Bjornebye]

49 minutes ago, A Red said:

It doesn't matter

 

I'm in a good mood, getting ready for a weekend away on the piss, I dont want to argue with you. 

 

 

Bit slippery..... slippery dipperryy if I might add snarf snarf 

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Fugitive said:

You’re all a gang of whinging cunts... fuck off.

 

 

[Hand Shandy]

20 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

If Nazis took over would I protest? 

 

Probably not to be honest, I’d protest before they took over but once they were in I’d leave. 

 

If Communists took over would you protest? 

 

 

Outstanding answer, entirely inkeeping with your attitude that what happens to other people doesn't really matter as long as you're alright. Well done for maintaining your famous 'consistency'.

 

 

To what level would you be prepared to take your protest before they came to power? Would you resort to violence to prevent them coming to power? Given the precedent set by the Nazis, if another party started making similar noises in terms of policy, how far would you be prepared to go?

 

Re the Communists taking over - I'm unsure why you're asking me that question, given I've never expressed any particular preference towards communism.

 

However, in light of the previous precedents set by many of the 'governments' claiming to be communist, I'd certainly have my concerns...  

 

[A Red]

3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Bit slippery..... slippery dipperryy if I might add snarf snarf 

Oh I see, you want an argument. Well fuck off, you aint getting one

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, A Red said:

Oh I see, you want an argument. Well fuck off, you aint getting one

No I don't.  I want an argument. 

 

Where are you off anyway? Nose City? 

[cloggypop]

2 hours ago, moof said:

And who the fuck are you, exactly?

Rico

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Rico

Bollocks. Big A Red wouldn't be seen dead with Louis Spence. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just when I thought that milkshaking was all played out, along comes the best one yet.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

This thread stinks.

It's the smell of stale milkshake. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

It's the smell of stale milkshake. 

And burning lefties. 

 

Bit thats ok. Its for the greater good. 

 

 

[Pureblood]

15 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Just when I thought that milkshaking was all played out, along comes the best one yet.

 

 

Magnificent.

[Rico1304]

32 minutes ago, Hand Shandy said:

 

Outstanding answer, entirely inkeeping with your attitude that what happens to other people doesn't really matter as long as you're alright. Well done for maintaining your famous 'consistency'.

 

 

To what level would you be prepared to take your protest before they came to power? Would you resort to violence to prevent them coming to power? Given the precedent set by the Nazis, if another party started making similar noises in terms of policy, how far would you be prepared to go?

 

Re the Communists taking over - I'm unsure why you're asking me that question, given I've never expressed any particular preference towards communism.

 

However, in light of the previous precedents set by many of the 'governments' claiming to be communist, I'd certainly have my concerns...  

 

1) Why would anyone stay once Nazis were in power

2) Surely it’s too late once they are in? 

3) what are your views on people who left Nazi Germany before the war? Are they selfish? Are they to be condemned? 

 

[Rico1304]

21 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Just when I thought that milkshaking was all played out, along comes the best one yet.

 

 

Yep, there’s loads of these about 

 

 

[Strontium]

14 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

1) Why would anyone stay once Nazis were in power

2) Surely it’s too late once they are in? 

3) what are your views on people who left Nazi Germany before the war? Are they selfish? Are they to be condemned? 

 

 

I don't know about you, but personally I would stay and get gassed.

[Rico1304]

44 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Rico

Ha ha thump. 

[Hand Shandy]

9 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

1) Why would anyone stay once Nazis were in power

2) Surely it’s too late once they are in? 

3) what are your views on people who left Nazi Germany before the war? Are they selfish? Are they to be condemned? 

 

You're very good at asking questions, less good at answering them, and you appear to be trying to turn this into a discussion about history rather than what I've asked you.

 

However, as you've asked...

 

1) Fuck knows, but they did. Many people don't have the economic means to change their circumstances so dramatically, but I suppose in your world that's their problem. I'd rather they didn't get into power in the first place.

 

2) Not quite sure why you're asking this, or which part of my response it relates to. But yes it is - I suppose it would be another excuse for you not to do anything.

 

3) Are they selfish? No, because everyone has a sense of self-preservation. Anyone who could see what was coming and had the means and opportunity to get out would have been daft not to. However, you're talking about before the war, when they're already in power. Those people who stood by and let Hitler take control of Germany and then legged it - yes, I would say they should, at the very least, take a long hard look at what they created before leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces.

 

Any chance of responding to what I actually asked you?   

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

I don't know about you, but personally I would stay and get gassed.

This is the problem when they chuck words like Nazi and fascist about. Words have meanings or we’re goosed. 

[A Red]

44 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Bollocks. Big A Red wouldn't be seen dead with Louis Spence. 

Thats quite true

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, Hand Shandy said:

You're very good at asking questions, less good at answering them, and you appear to be trying to turn this into a discussion about history rather than what I've asked you.

 

However, as you've asked...

 

1) Fuck knows, but they did. Many people don't have the economic means to change their circumstances so dramatically, but I suppose in your world that's their problem. I'd rather they didn't get into power in the first place.

 

2) Not quite sure why you're asking this, or which part of my response it relates to. But yes it is - I suppose it would be another excuse for you not to do anything.

 

3) Are they selfish? No, because everyone has a sense of self-preservation. Anyone who could see what was coming and had the means and opportunity to get out would have been daft not to. However, you're talking about before the war, when they're already in power. Those people who stood by and let Hitler take control of Germany and then legged it - yes, I would say they should, at the very least, take a long hard look at what they created before leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces.

 

Any chance of responding to what I actually asked you?   

Wackamole 

 

You asked if I’d resort to violence, I think that’s the only question. The answer is no. Because I don’t think it works.  When the state has machine guns and I have a flag I’d weigh up the odds. 

 

I’d get the fuck out of dodge. Early fucking doors. 

 

Would you stay? Would you fight? If you say yes are you better than me? 

[Rico1304]

Ha ha - a long hard look. 

[aRdja]

29 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

1) Why would anyone stay once Nazis were in power

2) Surely it’s too late once they are in? 

3) what are your views on people who left Nazi Germany before the war? Are they selfish? Are they to be condemned? 

 

Some people would call them economic migrants. 

[Hand Shandy]

8 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Wackamole 

 

You asked if I’d resort to violence, I think that’s the only question. The answer is no. Because I don’t think it works.  When the state has machine guns and I have a flag I’d weigh up the odds. 

 

I’d get the fuck out of dodge. Early fucking doors. 

 

Would you stay? Would you fight? If you say yes are you better than me? 

 

The fuck are you on about, wackamole?

 

What I'm trying to get to the crux of is would you stand by and let an organisation/political party reach a position of power in this country standing on a platform based on division and hatred, or would you do something about it?

 

I've specifically stated, on a number of occasions, that I'm talking about before they take power.

 

Apparently the answer is yes you would stand by, and you'd just fuck off somewhere else.

 

In which case, I'm quite happy to say that I'm better than you.