When is Violence Justified?

[Babb'sBurstNad]

37 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Well, I guess first you didn’t really stipulate which type of fascists, leaders, followers, part of a demonstration, whatever.

 

I mean I don’t think anyone, apart from maybe rico and NV, would object that if Hitler had been in mid exhorting rant and some ordinary German citizen had lobbed an egg at him, that would have been ok.

 

So if you’re not up for kicking in a fascist dickhead in the street, because you’ve decided they deserve it, that’s probably a good thing.

 

Claus von Stauffenberg's first attempt.

[Davelfc]

41 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Well, I guess first you didn’t really stipulate which type of fascists, leaders, followers, part of a demonstration, whatever.

 

I mean I don’t think anyone, apart from maybe rico and NV, would object that if Hitler had been in mid exhorting rant and some ordinary German citizen had lobbed an egg at him, that would have been ok.

 

So if you’re not up for kicking in a fascist dickhead in the street, because you’ve decided they deserve it, that’s probably a good thing.

Throwing an egg at hitler would have undoubtedly resulted in being executed. 

[Jose Jones]

1 minute ago, 16613 said:

Throwing an egg at hitler would have undoubtedly resulted in being executed. 

Or, the whole third Reich would have started laughing at him with yolk dripping out of his tache, puncturing his facade of messianic power and therefore preventing world war 2 and the holocaust.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

42 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

The law says its violence. 

Which law?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

14 minutes ago, 16613 said:

Throwing an egg at hitler would have undoubtedly resulted in being executed. 

Not if you did it before the cunt seized power.

 

Also, of course, that's an eloquent argument for why Fascists and Nazis must be stopped, by whatever means necessary. 

[SasaS]

16 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Or, the whole third Reich would have started laughing at him with yolk dripping out of his tache, puncturing his facade of messianic power and therefore preventing world war 2 and the holocaust.

It wouldn't, because it would have been on the radio and throwing an egg at someone is not great radio.

[Remmie]

2 hours ago, TK421 said:

Garlic mayo shits all over ketchup as an accompinament for one's fries. Come at me.

If I were to do that you'd only put it on your fries

[Davelfc]

19 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Not if you did it before the cunt seized power.

 

Also, of course, that's an eloquent argument for why Fascists and Nazis must be stopped, by whatever means necessary. 

Maybe he was all butterflies and dandelions before someone threw an egg at him? There are unsubstantiated rumours he visited this fair city. Maybe he attended a bitters game and had a kid thrown at him. Another first?

[Boss]

This is a picture of a Right-Wing Dutch populist called Pim Fortuyn. He had a cake thrown at him at his book signing by a bunch of protesters. The violence was normalised. It was only a cake though, right?

 

 

This is a picture two months later when he was shot dead by a Left-Wing activist.

 

[/spolier]

 

Once you normalise actions of violence against political figures you disagree with, then don't be surprised when violence escalates.

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, 16613 said:

Maybe he was all butterflies and dandelions before someone threw an egg at him? There are unsubstantiated rumours he visited this fair city. Maybe he attended a bitters game and had a kid thrown at him. Another first?

It all started when he went into the Dispensary and ordered a blackcurrant and soda water. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

This is a picture of a Right-Wing Dutch populist called Pim Fortuyn. He had a cake thrown at him at his book signing by a bunch of protesters. The violence was normalised. It was only a cake though, right?

 

 

This is a picture two months later when he was shot dead by a Left-Wing activist.

 

 

Once you normalise actions of violence against political figures you disagree with, then don't be surprised when violence escalates.

Not sure what point you are making here?

 

One picture is him covered in cake the 2nd one is months later when he has been shot dead. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I know it's not the point being made, but he looks worse covered in cake.

[Elite]

Looks like he got his just desserts.

[Boss]

10 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Not sure what point you are making here?

 

One picture is him covered in cake the 2nd one is months later when he has been shot dead. 

Isn't the point obvious?

 

"I’m not going to lose any sleep about some fella pouring a milkshake on him"

 

"Throwing milkshake or egging someone is not violence"

 

"This is why I've got no qualms about Yaxley-Lennon or the rapey twat getting milky"

 

"You mean have a cold drink thrown on them? It's not violence, really, is it?"

 

"I don't fucking care. It's a milkshake."

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Claus von Stauffenberg's first attempt.

 

Operation Yolkyrie.

[Rico1304]

56 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Which law?

Offences against the person Act. 

[skend04]

"Yaxley-Lennon turns up outside people's houses in the middle of the night, mob handed but it's not right he or other fascists get milkshaked." 

 

I'd say I'm surprised by Boss, but I'm not.

[Dr Nowt]

24 minutes ago, Elite said:

Looks like he got his just desserts.

Certainly one way to expunge his views.

[cloggypop]

36 minutes ago, Boss said:

This is a picture of a Right-Wing Dutch populist called Pim Fortuyn. He had a cake thrown at him at his book signing by a bunch of protesters. The violence was normalised. It was only a cake though, right?

 

 

This is a picture two months later when he was shot dead by a Left-Wing activist.

 

 

Once you normalise actions of violence against political figures you disagree with, then don't be surprised when violence escalates.

He was shot dead by an animal rights activist, over mink farming. 

 

He was a right cunt though, Pim. 

 

 

[SasaS]

25 minutes ago, Boss said:

Isn't the point obvious?

 

"I’m not going to lose any sleep about some fella pouring a milkshake on him"

 

"Throwing milkshake or egging someone is not violence"

 

"This is why I've got no qualms about Yaxley-Lennon or the rapey twat getting milky"

 

"You mean have a cold drink thrown on them? It's not violence, really, is it?"

 

"I don't fucking care. It's a milkshake."

You think Fortuyn was murdered because throwing cake at politicians had been normalized?

[Boss]

8 minutes ago, SasaS said:

You think Fortuyn was murdered because throwing cake at politicians had been normalized?

 

No. The cake throwing incident was used to mock and ridicule him - like what's happening right now with Robinson and Farage. And then a left wing nutter killed him.

[The Guest]

The milkshake thing is shitbag behaviour.  I think the point about it not being violence is an interesting one.  I think the fact it’s ambiguous is why these cunts are doing it.  They know they will get away with it.  I don’t class Farage and Robinson as the same but they’re both cunts for similar reasons.  It still doesn’t stand up though. I didn’t like it when that fella punched Corbyn but I also wouldn’t like it if people started throwing milkshakes over him wherever he went.  That’s what people are trying to turn this into.  It will just mean you get more and more attention seeking cunts who aren’t doing it to make a political point.

 

In response to the opening question I think the answer is yes when somebody throws a milkshake on you.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

51 minutes ago, Boss said:

This is a picture of a Right-Wing Dutch populist called Pim Fortuyn. He had a cake thrown at him at his book signing by a bunch of protesters. The violence was normalised. It was only a cake though, right?

 

 

This is a picture two months later when he was shot dead by a Left-Wing activist.

 

 

Once you normalise actions of violence against political figures you disagree with, then don't be surprised when violence escalates.

Clearly, throwing food and committing murder are much of a muchness; the one always leads to the other.

 

Give your head a wobble, you daft twat.

[SasaS]

6 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

No. The cake throwing incident was used to mock and ridicule him - like what's happening right now with Robinson and Farage. And then a left wing nutter killed him.

 

But the nutter would have killed him regardless, no? Same as politicians which were killed without cake or eggs being thrown at them previously.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

32 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Offences against the person Act. 

Which bit says "slopping milkshake at someone is violence"?

 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/contents