Vowels Only Draft Idea - Rules and Discussion Thread

[John102]

Ariel Ortega

[Guest Alex_K]

@Sugar Ape

[Sugar Ape]

@MegadriveMan

[Lee909]

Anyone not picking before me take a couple of picks as I'll be asleep tomorrow 

[Megadrive Man]

Back over to you @Bjornebye

[aRdja]

Thiago Alcantara

Alisson Becker

 

Which one is allowed here? Can’t be both surely. 

[3 Stacks]

Both. 

[aRdja]

@Bjornebye could you please clarify? If both are allowed why?

[The Golden Eel]

Read my posts from yesterday - that's only my opinion, but I think it makes sense. Some players have 2 common names - so what else can you do?

[aRdja]

10 minutes ago, DimReaper said:

Read my posts from yesterday - that's only my opinion, but I think it makes sense. Some players have 2 common names - so what else can you do?

Looks like I missed the whole discussion about it yesterday.

[Megadrive Man]

30 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Thiago Alcantara

Alisson Becker

 

Which one is allowed here? Can’t be both surely. 

 

This was debated at length yesterday.

 

For some reason Stig allowed Thiago Alcantara, even though he'd previously said it was the name that the player is known as, so in this case 'Thiago'

[Megadrive Man]

Some sources have him down as Thiago Alcantara, but as you point out some sources have Alisson down as Alisson Becker, so I guess the rule is that if their is some ambiguity about a players name, then either is allowed?  

[aRdja]

Yeah IMO Kaka then should be allowed as his name is Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite

[3 Stacks]

15 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Yeah IMO Kaka then should be allowed as his name is Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite

No one calls Kaka that. As far as people know, his name is only Kaka. On the other hand, Alcantara is Thiago's recognized surname. 

 

Anyway, this debate is boring me to death. 

[Guest Alex_K]

Alisson is titled 'Alisson' on Wikipedia, Premier League website & Transfermarkt .. don't think there should be much debate there. A suggestion that Kaka is allowed is to be honest just a bit farcical. Draw a line under it & just send any debatable choices to the adjudicator for the remainder of the game & take his judgement on it.

[aRdja]

What about Ederson Moraes then? 

[Guest Alex_K]

Why are you diverting this even further? Just send the query on to the mediator of the game. And with regards of 'Ederson Moraes', which name do you think is used predominantly to describe that footballer for Manchester City -- 'Ederson', or 'Ederson Moraes'?

[The Golden Eel]

What are you on about? Ederson Moraes is commonly known as "Ederson", it clearly is fine. If it was about players whose names begin with "M" then would it count? It would be arguable, I suppose. 

[aRdja]

Alisson and Ederson are clearly their first names. If you’re saying that that doesn’t matter because what’s more important is the names they’re known by, then Thiago shouldn’t count. 

[3 Stacks]

11 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Alisson and Ederson are clearly their first names. If you’re saying that that doesn’t matter because what’s more important is the names they’re known by, then Thiago shouldn’t count. 

Thiago is Spanish. He's known as Thiago but his last name is Alcantara. He's sometimes called Thiago Alcantara. Bjornebye said it was fine.

 

You weren't here all day yesterday when it was your turn and now you wanna give your opinion? Nah, not for me. 

[The Golden Eel]

I didn't really want to have to say this for the millionth time but SOME PLAYERS HAVE MORE THAN ONE NAME BY WHICH THEY'RE COMMONLY KNOWN. The example I gave was Gilberto Silva - he is COMMONLY known as both "Gilberto" and "Gilberto Silva", as evidenced by the posts yesterday when one person said he's "Gilberto" and another "Gilberto Silva". Hence, he could be either a "G" or an "S" player. It's the same with Thiago - he gets called "Thiago" and "Thiago Alcantara". You're looking for a hard-and-fast rule to apply to all players equally when one doesn't exist. 

[Guest Alex_K]

Yup. On with the game. Already lots of players I feel stupid for forgetting -- Albelda is one, Thiago Alcantara another. All the teams in this look like they've got the potential to win - will be interesting to see how the second-half of the picks line up.

[Bjornebye]

 

All picks so far are fine. Stop crying. x 

[TheHowieLama]

Are you talking about Thiago Alcântara do Nascimento, known simply as Thiago?

[Guest Alex_K]

Sad to see Almeyda go - scorer of greatest volley of all time (Van Basten eat your heart out).

@Babb'sBurstNad