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3 minutes ago, General Dryness said:

I cant believe you're still talking about Pepe when we've just signed Harvey Elliot.

 

May I be the first to say "never heard of the cunt".

 

Haha

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4 hours ago, Boss said:

The Italian player thing is 100% real. In recent times Darmian and Immobile both failed spectacularly. Jorginho was arguably one of the worst big money flops of last season. There are hardly any examples (outside of Veratti) of current Italian players succeeding at big clubs outside Italy. It's also a fucking nightmare to get rid of them. Remember Balotelli and Aquilani?

Jorginho is Brazilian just chose to play for Italy

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1 hour ago, J-V said:

 

Do we get destroyed on the counter?  Yeah I thought not.  All three of those players are full of running and interchangable.  If Arse get Pepe added to Ceballos and Saliba (if they don't loan him back this year) they'll have a very good starting 11.

 

You're missing the point I’m trying to make J-V.

 

You are correct we don’t get done on the counter but our keeper, backline and midfield are miles better than Arsenal. I’ll even say Gomez, Lovren, Keita, Milner and Chamberlain (our back ups arguably) are all better than any of Arsenal’s starters in their positions.

 

None of their front 3 get in our team like for like either by the way.

 

They’re a shit show of a team. They haven’t got the platform in defence or midfield to play that front 3

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5 hours ago, CWD82 said:

I can’t see who has strengthened out of the teams we’re up against.

 

Where are Arsenal playing Pepe? Front 3 with Lacazette and Aubameyang and they get destroyed in midfield by any team that can counter

 

United have signed a right back and are selling 2 of their better players in Lukaku and Pogba

 

Spurs are getting rid of their first choice full backs and signing a centre mid. Nothing ground breaking there, they lost 13 games last season.

 

Chelsea have lost one of the top 5 players in the league

 

City have brought a lad in who plays the same position as their most important player

 

Nothing to worry about from our rivals.

 

if we can get a back up full back at worst we’ll still be challenging for the league and European cup

No point talking about city in some ways, they've got an outstanding squad and anything they buy at the moment is to bring some depth in the position they have and allow for some continuity as the some of their players are getting the wrong side of 30. It's pretty fair to assume though, they've made par high 90s points and I see no reason why they won't go there again, so unless you're happy not challenging for the league, high 90s is the target. 

 

I don't care about any of those behind us right now. I think your assesment makes their changes appear in the most negative light you could paint them. But as far as I'm concerned, they're not city's business, so they shouldn't be ours. None of those sides will beat 90 points. 

 

So what it all comes down to for me, is what we can do. Can we be as competitive on the league as last year? Well a simplistic view is yes as we've held together the first XI. However, there are more factors. Our forwards have only just stopped playing. They will likely struggle early on. We had that issue to some extent last year, but sturridge started the season well and was able to do his only work during that spell. This year we're to rely on someone who's never played 1st team football or origi. We've also lost cover at left back. I'm not arsed Moreno is gone, we should have shifted him years before, but why shouldn't we replace him in the squad? Then there's the fixture list. We're guaranteed to play 50 matches this season if we don't win 1 cup game. That's harder than last year, with a slightly thinner and more tired squad. Then what if we actually managed to win some domestic cup games? That's more pressure on the squad right there. 

 

For me the squad at best is the same as last year, but with the impact of the summer on our forwards and letting sturridge go, I think we're a bit behind. And the season is going to be tougher. And now we're European champions, maybe more of a scalp and games getting more difficult. 

 

So here's the thing for me. If you're happy with something in the top 4 and if things our way a decent CL run, then not adding to the squad I think is fine. If we've any real aspirations of winning the league, we should add to the squad. Personally I think we're settling for the former. 

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57 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Agree with Barry in the main, but I still think we’ll do something in the transfer market.

Why would you think that? 

 

Klopp has done about 4/5 interviews now saying we won't buy anyone? 

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3 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why would you think that? 

 

Klopp has done about 4/5 interviews now saying we won't buy anyone? 

Ward was getting a shot at being No1 a few days later he was gone and Alison was in. Smoke and mirrors. Or not.

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3 hours ago, CWD82 said:

 

None of their front 3 get in our team like for like either by the way.

 

 

Agreed.

None of their front three has anything like the workrate ours do - that is not something you learn.

 

We dont get done often because Firmino and Mane track back like madmen and are two of the best in the world at regaining possession.

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38 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why would you think that? 

 

Klopp has done about 4/5 interviews now saying we won't buy anyone? 

 

He didn't. He said we wouldn't sign anyone for massive money. 

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1 hour ago, Barry Wom said:

No point talking about city in some ways, they've got an outstanding squad and anything they buy at the moment is to bring some depth in the position they have and allow for some continuity as the some of their players are getting the wrong side of 30. It's pretty fair to assume though, they've made par high 90s points and I see no reason why they won't go there again, so unless you're happy not challenging for the league, high 90s is the target. 

 

I don't care about any of those behind us right now. I think your assesment makes their changes appear in the most negative light you could paint them. But as far as I'm concerned, they're not city's business, so they shouldn't be ours. None of those sides will beat 90 points. 

 

So what it all comes down to for me, is what we can do. Can we be as competitive on the league as last year? Well a simplistic view is yes as we've held together the first XI. However, there are more factors. Our forwards have only just stopped playing. They will likely struggle early on. We had that issue to some extent last year, but sturridge started the season well and was able to do his only work during that spell. This year we're to rely on someone who's never played 1st team football or origi. We've also lost cover at left back. I'm not arsed Moreno is gone, we should have shifted him years before, but why shouldn't we replace him in the squad? Then there's the fixture list. We're guaranteed to play 50 matches this season if we don't win 1 cup game. That's harder than last year, with a slightly thinner and more tired squad. Then what if we actually managed to win some domestic cup games? That's more pressure on the squad right there. 

 

For me the squad at best is the same as last year, but with the impact of the summer on our forwards and letting sturridge go, I think we're a bit behind. And the season is going to be tougher. And now we're European champions, maybe more of a scalp and games getting more difficult. 

 

So here's the thing for me. If you're happy with something in the top 4 and if things our way a decent CL run, then not adding to the squad I think is fine. If we've any real aspirations of winning the league, we should add to the squad. Personally I think we're settling for the former. 

The season will come down to the front three staying fit. If that ends up being the case, Keita improving to the level he's capable of playing at and Chamberlain playing something close to a full season improves our squad from last season.

 

Those two were non-entities last season but both offer the creativity, dribbling and drive that our regular midfield of Fabinho, Wijnaldum and Henderson don't offer. If those two play at a good level, we'll be flying. 

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Sessegnon would kill two birds with one stone in that he could play left back or on the left in the forward line. From that point of view, it would make sense. 

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16 minutes ago, Crazy Dave said:

Bascombe’s latest mentions Klopp’s only target is a left footed versatile player that would accept being a backup. 

 

Ryan Sessegnon anyone? 

 

 

More likely Maxwell Cornet

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7 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

I told my kids last night I didn't have any money when they asked as they were going out. Really had a little cash in the pocket.

Any truth in the rumour that when they asked if they could have an ice cream you fucked off in a kayak?

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23 minutes ago, Horus said:

When we're signing players happy to be backups, then are we really improving?

We are improving the bench which is really what we need to do. Not many players in the market improve our first team. 

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

We are improving the bench which is really what we need to do. Not many players in the market improve our first team. 

There's a difference in approach. When we signed Nabby, it wasn't to be a backup, but that's where he now is (for a mixture of reasons). If our approach to him from the off was to come and be a backup here, then he wouldn't have signed.

 

My fear, is that not only are we boxing off the first team from any competition, but we're also looking at the level below we need to be looking at, which won't actually improve anything other than numbers.

 

If we were signing Pepe, as an example, then you tell him to go and make a place in the starting 11 his own, and if he's out performing any of the front 3, then he's made it. Looking for backups will fill our squad back up with the kind of players we've all been delighted to see the back of over the last 3 years. 

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Real Madrid are blocking Bale's move to China as apparently they are demanding a transfer fee rather than allowing him to move for free.

 

Although they have every right to be financially rewarded for a player under contract, the way they are getting him out of the club is a disgrace and the least they can do is allow him to move on without a fanfare.

 

Real Madrid continue to be thundercunts.

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