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All this talk of Klopps choice not to spend is utter bollocks. 

 

The news broke around April that we'd spend next to fuck all. 

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5 hours ago, The Guest said:

Signing 60/70m players every summer isn’t sustainable.  The thing is when you do that the price just keeps going up as do the wages as well.  After spending a lot in the last 18 months the club have decided to put the brakes on to stop clubs thinking they can take the piss.  Everyone has been sucking Edwards off for how well we have done in the transfer market in and out.  It reminds me of a quote from Jack from Lost.  “Everybody wants me to be the leader until I make a decision they don’t like.”

 

Klopp spoke ages ago about packing it in if he ever had to spend 100m on a player.  He’s since said that club had to then convince him to spend big money on Virg and Alisson because that’s how it is now and we would get left behind if we didn’t.  He couldn’t be making things clearer.  Talking about the long term and how just signing quick fixes and players they haven’t thoroughly scouted because they’re the latest flavour in the newspapers isn’t his style and never has been.

 

The owners, Edwards and Klopp are clearly all on the same page.  We’ve just won the fucking European Cup.  Klopp has been here for nearly 4 years and is signed up for another 3 but that’s somehow a sign he’s not sticking around.  Jesus fucking christ.

 

It is sustainable, and has to be sustainable in this current market. The club made £250m from TV revenue last season and recorded profits of £125m for the last financial year. That's not even taking into account the CL win. City have spent £81m and will spend more. United will spend £200m plus - even Spurs will spend over 100m. 

 

If we refuse to spend 70m on a player, count this trophy as an anomaly because bog average players are going for 80-90m in this market and it'll only increase.

 

Don't get me wrong, i'm not moaning. I think we're in a good position - even if we don't sign anyone. However, we'd be in a better position if we reinforced because there's no margin for error next season. The entire front three have spent pre season going far in the ACON and the Copa. They will get injured next season without adequate rotation. It's not a matter of if, but when.

 

Also it's gross negligence not to bolster the left back position in case an injury to Robertson derails us. Players like Tierney and Sessegnon are going for £20-£25m. You can't say we don't have the money to bring in a player like that.

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I don't get Klopp's reluctance to spend. He shot down the Coutinho rumours yesterday on cost grounds. 

He would have been a great option to have back imo. He had better get a full back in or I'll be sending a strongly worded letter to Melwood using a first class stamp.

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10 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Same sort of gross negligence people called waiting for Van Dijk or a different sort? 

 

Err no, they called us getting threatened with a transfer ban for tapping up Van Dijk in the summer gross negligence. I don't remember anybody saying signing Van Dijk was gross negligence. 

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23 minutes ago, magicrat said:

I don't get Klopp's reluctance to spend. He shot down the Coutinho rumours yesterday on cost grounds. 

He would have been a great option to have back imo. He had better get a full back in or I'll be sending a strongly worded letter to Melwood using a first class stamp.

27 years old on now very high wages. We wouldn't want to be paying what he's currently getting into his 30's on top of a massive transfer fee. We've never made that kind of signing, It's just not good business.

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35 minutes ago, magicrat said:

I don't get Klopp's reluctance to spend. He shot down the Coutinho rumours yesterday on cost grounds. 

He would have been a great option to have back imo. He had better get a full back in or I'll be sending a strongly worded letter to Melwood using a first class stamp.

So you reckon that's 100% on the boss then, do you...........................

 

Better get writing that letter then. Post it to FSG..............

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58 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

Err no, they called us getting threatened with a transfer ban for tapping up Van Dijk in the summer gross negligence. I don't remember anybody saying signing Van Dijk was gross negligence. 

Errrrr... No. They called us not signing somebody else gross negligence. Waiting for the right player was negligent. 

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40 minutes ago, Bogman said:

So you reckon that's 100% on the boss then, do you...........................

 

Better get writing that letter then. Post it to FSG..............

Have you seen the price of a letter to Boston

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5 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Errrrr... No. They called us not signing somebody else gross negligence. Waiting for the right player was negligent. 

So who's the right player now?

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We should have money, but they are being saved for expanding Anfield,  pay off Kirkby and a down payment on a new yacht.

 

My personal feeling is that one big name comes in, or hope might be a better word. 

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2 hours ago, Boss said:

 

It is sustainable, and has to be sustainable in this current market. The club made £250m from TV revenue last season and recorded profits of £125m for the last financial year. That's not even taking into account the CL win. City have spent £81m and will spend more. United will spend £200m plus - even Spurs will spend over 100m. 

 

If we refuse to spend 70m on a player, count this trophy as an anomaly because bog average players are going for 80-90m in this market and it'll only increase.

 

Don't get me wrong, i'm not moaning. I think we're in a good position - even if we don't sign anyone. However, we'd be in a better position if we reinforced because there's no margin for error next season. The entire front three have spent pre season going far in the ACON and the Copa. They will get injured next season without adequate rotation. It's not a matter of if, but when.

 

Also it's gross negligence not to bolster the left back position in case an injury to Robertson derails us. Players like Tierney and Sessegnon are going for £20-£25m. You can't say we don't have the money to bring in a player like that.

We made 125m pre tax.  We made 106m after tax.  In that 125m was 124m we made on profit on disposal of players registrations.  It’s not hard to guess what that is.  The amortisation of players registrations went up 20m.  It’s more difficult to say what that is as Virg will only have accounted for about a quarter of that you would guess.

 

Without selling Coutinho we probably would have made a loss.  The numbers are there in black and white but it’s more than that.  We can’t afford to be buying 70m players every year.  Even more so because every time you spend big the cost goes up the next time.  You see it with United and City and even though they’ve got a lot more money than us they are both turning their noses up at the prices of players now.  You need to pick your moments and the club seem to feel like now isn’t the time.  I’m not saying we should never buy 70m players but doing it every year just isn’t sustainable.  We’ve spent a lot recently so they’re obviously stopping for a season to assess what’s going on.

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It's not just about buying players, you have to keep the key players you have.  Which has meant big new contracts all round and I expect that's where this year's pot has gone.  

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2 minutes ago, The Guest said:

We made 125m pre tax.  We made 106m after tax.  In that 125m was 124m we made on profit on disposal of players registrations.  It’s not hard to guess what that is.  The amortisation of players registrations went up 20m.  It’s more difficult to say what that is as Virg will only have accounted for about a quarter of that you would guess.

 

Without selling Coutinho we probably would have made a loss.  The numbers are there in black and white but it’s more than that.  We can’t afford to be buying 70m players every year.  Even more so because every time you spend big the cost goes up the next time.  You see it with United and City and even though they’ve got a lot more money than us they are both turning their noses up at the prices of players now.  You need to pick your moments and the club seem to feel like now isn’t the time.  I’m not saying we should never buy 70m players but doing it every year just isn’t sustainable.  We’ve spent a lot recently so they’re obviously stopping for a season to assess what’s going on.

 

So, to buy quality, we have to sell quality. We've spent a lot because we sold big.

 

How many times have we been here before.

One or two quality signings makes us. Standing still doesn't.

 

We're going into next season more depleted than we were last season, and that's without Mane's 13 month season, and that's also praying Mo or Bobby don't break down. And lets not forget the "industrious" midfield we have. Or short of cover at full back.

 

It's crap. We should be buying AT LEAST one quality signing. You don't stand still.

 

It's bollocks, and unfortunately we've been here before.

Our competitors have strengthened, and we're sitting on our hands. 

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2 minutes ago, aws said:

It's not just about buying players, you have to keep the key players you have.  Which has meant big new contracts all round and I expect that's where this year's pot has gone.  

 

But we're worse off going into this season than we were last.

I know we're not minted, but really.

 

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Just now, Bogman said:

 

But we're worse off going into this season than we were last.

I know we're not minted, but really.

 

How exactly are we worse off?  Mane, Keita and Shaqiri might miss a couple of games but the squad is just as strong, if not stronger, than last year.  Ox, Gomez and Brewster being fit should count for more than the loss of Sturridge and Moreno.  

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1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

27 years old on now very high wages. We wouldn't want to be paying what he's currently getting into his 30's on top of a massive transfer fee. We've never made that kind of signing, It's just not good business.

 

Exactly. It’s completely against the clubs strategy to make those kind of signings. If people disagree, fair enough, but strange that so many still seem to be surprised by it.

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1 minute ago, Bogman said:

Ok, I'll twist that around. Are we better off then?

 

A bit, yes.  Squad strength is maybe slightly better and the age of all of our players bar Milner suggests that they should be capable of either improving or at least sustaining the same level of performance.  Plus they won't have that monkey of not winning anything on their backs. 

 

Obviously I'd be happier with another attacker and full back to balance the squad better but overall we're better off than we have been since the late 80s so I'm feeling positive.  If it wasn't for the fact that we're competing with an oil-state with limitless resources I'd be as happy as a pig in shit.  

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