Summer 2019 Transfer Thread

[TheBitch]

7 minutes ago, Boss said:

I think we're in danger of having a season like Klopp's last at Dortmund. Everyone around us barre Chelsea have strengthened massively and we've not even stood still, we've gone backwards. We've lost our left back cover and potentially could lose one of our centre backs as well to Roma.

 

If an injury happens to Gomez and Matip (which quite frankly is very likely) we'll be down to Fabinho out of position in no time. Milner is not a left back. If the front three get injured Origi and Brewster aren't going to cover them. AOC has problems with his calf and seems destine for another injury plagued year. Lallana can't be trusted to go one week without injury. 

 

It's pure stupidity and there's no need for it whatsoever. We could bring Coutinho in on loan and pay him Sturridge's wages. We could bring Werner or Bergwijn in for about 30m to give us cover for the front three. We could buy Phillip Max or Junior Firpo and not have to play Milner out of position. It'd require about 60m in spends. We could sell Harry Wilson for £25m. It's all self inflicted. Our smugness will come back to bite us.

That's the spirit.

[Bjornebye]

14 minutes ago, Boss said:

I think we're in danger of having a season like Klopp's last at Dortmund. Everyone around us barre Chelsea have strengthened massively and we've not even stood still, we've gone backwards. We've lost our left back cover and potentially could lose one of our centre backs as well to Roma.

 

If an injury happens to Gomez and Matip (which quite frankly is very likely) we'll be down to Fabinho out of position in no time. Milner is not a left back. If the front three get injured Origi and Brewster aren't going to cover them. AOC has problems with his calf and seems destine for another injury plagued year. Lallana can't be trusted to go one week without injury. 

 

It's pure stupidity and there's no need for it whatsoever. We could bring Coutinho in on loan and pay him Sturridge's wages. We could bring Werner or Bergwijn in for about 30m to give us cover for the front three. We could buy Phillip Max or Junior Firpo and not have to play Milner out of position. It'd require about 60m in spends. We could sell Harry Wilson for £25m. It's all self inflicted. Our smugness will come back to bite us.

You need a pot noodle and a wank mate 

[Captain Turdseye]

6 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Barcelona have received a bid for Coutinho. Any updates, Captain? 

 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

 

In case anyone like this wallopper wants to compare The Fod with van Dijk, here's the benchmark.

 

LFC last 38 league games before van Dijk

W-20  D-12  L-6    For-77  Against- 42  Pts-74

 

LFC first 38 league games with van Dijk

W-27  D-7  L-4   For-85  Against-24   Pts-88

 

If Maguire makes an impact like that, I'll doff my cap to him.

[aRdja]

35 minutes ago, Boss said:

I think we're in danger of having a season like Klopp's last at Dortmund. Everyone around us barre Chelsea have strengthened massively and we've not even stood still, we've gone backwards. We've lost our left back cover and potentially could lose one of our centre backs as well to Roma.

 

If an injury happens to Gomez and Matip (which quite frankly is very likely) we'll be down to Fabinho out of position in no time. Milner is not a left back. If the front three get injured Origi and Brewster aren't going to cover them. AOC has problems with his calf and seems destine for another injury plagued year. Lallana can't be trusted to go one week without injury. 

 

It's pure stupidity and there's no need for it whatsoever. We could bring Coutinho in on loan and pay him Sturridge's wages. We could bring Werner or Bergwijn in for about 30m to give us cover for the front three. We could buy Phillip Max or Junior Firpo and not have to play Milner out of position. It'd require about 60m in spends. We could sell Harry Wilson for £25m. It's all self inflicted. Our smugness will come back to bite us.

Dortmund brought in Immobile, Ginter, Kagawa and Kampl that season.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

20 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You need a pot noodle and a wank mate 

Don't we all?

[The Guest]

51 minutes ago, Boss said:

I think we're in danger of having a season like Klopp's last at Dortmund. Everyone around us barre Chelsea have strengthened massively and we've not even stood still, we've gone backwards. We've lost our left back cover and potentially could lose one of our centre backs as well to Roma.

 

If an injury happens to Gomez and Matip (which quite frankly is very likely) we'll be down to Fabinho out of position in no time. Milner is not a left back. If the front three get injured Origi and Brewster aren't going to cover them. AOC has problems with his calf and seems destine for another injury plagued year. Lallana can't be trusted to go one week without injury. 

 

It's pure stupidity and there's no need for it whatsoever. We could bring Coutinho in on loan and pay him Sturridge's wages. We could bring Werner or Bergwijn in for about 30m to give us cover for the front three. We could buy Phillip Max or Junior Firpo and not have to play Milner out of position. It'd require about 60m in spends. We could sell Harry Wilson for £25m. It's all self inflicted. Our smugness will come back to bite us.

Milner was ahead of Moreno as the second choice left back all season last year.  He played there when Robertson went off in the greatest game ever witnessed at Anfield.  He’s played a whole fucking season there and created more chances than any other left back in the league the other year.  Losing Moreno hasn’t effected anything whatsoever on the squad that got 97 points and won the champions league.

 

Personally I wouldn’t let Lovren go but if he does then the alternative of having Fabinho fourth choice isn’t the end of the world considering how many midfielders we’ve got.

 

People have shit their kecks because we looked shite in pre season without the front 3 but that was without all of them.  Somebody filling in for one of them at points throughout the season happened last year and will happen again and they were good enough last year.  The players are all more experienced and have now won the biggest trophy in the game so can play with less pressure.

 

You’re on crack if you think we are going to be near the relegation spaces for the first half of the season and pull back to the top half of the table in the second half.

[Numero Veinticinco]

So now that it looks like we are getting relegated, who is organising the FSG out protests? 

[Arnaud]

The Coutinho case is pretty interesting from a négociation point  of view. Barca need to sell, they want to sell him, he wants to leave, we want him, but nobody has made a move. It’s like poker. Risky business. We’ll see whether we’re that good at transfer business.

 

But, all in all, it’s mad we did not try to get cover for positions like left back, right back or for Mané...

[Bruce Spanner]

1 hour ago, Boss said:

I think we're in danger of having a season like Klopp's last at Dortmund. Everyone around us barre Chelsea have strengthened massively and we've not even stood still, we've gone backwards. We've lost our left back cover and potentially could lose one of our centre backs as well to Roma.

 

If an injury happens to Gomez and Matip (which quite frankly is very likely) we'll be down to Fabinho out of position in no time. Milner is not a left back. If the front three get injured Origi and Brewster aren't going to cover them. AOC has problems with his calf and seems destine for another injury plagued year. Lallana can't be trusted to go one week without injury. 

 

It's pure stupidity and there's no need for it whatsoever. We could bring Coutinho in on loan and pay him Sturridge's wages. We could bring Werner or Bergwijn in for about 30m to give us cover for the front three. We could buy Phillip Max or Junior Firpo and not have to play Milner out of position. It'd require about 60m in spends. We could sell Harry Wilson for £25m. It's all self inflicted. Our smugness will come back to bite us.

 

Shut up, you tit.

[Moo]

If nothing else new signings keep things fresh and give everyone a lift, add the number of games we'll hope to play in next season, there's no way our transfer (lack of) activity is a good idea. 

Klopp has been moaning about players playing too many games but he knows the score, that's the modern game, and I think he's seemed a bit stressed in his last couple of interviews. In short I don't believe not strengthening this summer and trimming the fat will be Klopp's choice, if that's how things turn out.  As far as I can see only once has he kept his powder dry for a specific player and that was VVD who he knew would get done the following January, there's no such player on the horizon on this occasion. 

[Pureblood]

2 hours ago, TheDrowningMan said:

I think we'll be okay, but I’d be lying if I were to say I'm not harbouring a little bit of trepidation. The thing that concerns me is the extent to which teams that missed out on the CL like Man Utd & Arsenal have bolstered their squads. Admittedly, they weren’t even close to us last season, Utd have the Solskjaer handicap and they have to overhaul Chelsea and Spurs first, but I suppose having seen us flop miserably in 02-03, 09-10 and 14-15 has left a mark.
 

That worst case scenario of dropping out of the top four is unlikely, but if it were to happen, the coming season would almost certainly be Klopp's penultimate one with us - for whatever reason, managers in the modern game simply don't recover from that sort of decline at the same club - and then it’s another rebuilding process, but under someone who simply would not be of the same calibre.

Hahahahahaha.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Coutinho on loan might be worth looking at. But, it's reported that Barcelona are asking for €25-30m for a one season loan fee. 

 

I'd settle for a Mignolet upgrade and a versatile forward. 

[Pureblood]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

So now that it looks like we are getting relegated, who is organising the FSG out protests? 

We'll be in liquidation by the time anyone can act.

 

RIP

YNWA

ROFL

[amli]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

You need a pot noodle and a wank mate 

Don’t we all.

[amli]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Don't we all?

What the....?

Didnt even see that.

Freakish.

[Arnaud]

6 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Coutinho on loan might be worth looking at. But, it's reported that Barcelona are asking for €25-30m for a one season loan fee. 

 

I'd settle for a Mignolet upgrade and a versatile forward. 

No, Barca want to sell deadly, they need the money to buy Neymar.

[3 Stacks]

23 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Coutinho on loan might be worth looking at. But, it's reported that Barcelona are asking for €25-30m for a one season loan fee. 

 

I'd settle for a Mignolet upgrade and a versatile forward. 

 

15 minutes ago, Arnaud said:

No, Barca want to sell deadly, they need the money to buy Neymar.

 

People are saying the source reporting this gets information from the club, and they're saying an English club was offered Coutinho on loan. And his agent said not too long ago he'd preferably only play for us in England, so I don't know... could be us. Probably not, but you never know. 

[Dr Nowt]

My concern is that a number of our key players, especially the front 3, have played a huge amount of football two years in a row with dangerously little in the way of summer breaks. As a double whammy, that’s an area of the team I feel is already one very good player light, i.e. a wide forward who could rotate in for Mo or Mane as required.

 

As a result of these issues and a couple of other relatively minor ones (not having specialist, experienced full-back cover, several injury prone centre-halves and a pear salesman as reserve goalie) I worry we may start a bit slower than ideal and/or hit a sticky patch of injuries/burn-out at some stage, thus not definitely winning all 38 league games to guarantee stopping the most cynically put together sporting outfit in history winning their third title in a row. While then stretching into a fourth decade without the title ourselves.

 

That is the absolute extent of my worries as to what may go wrong in the league this season, and we are still so, so fucking good now that I won’t be giving it much thought. The levels of squad strength we’d need to amass to allay such fears are largely unprecedented and, in any case, evidently not desired by Klopp for reasons we’ve already benefitted from. Smaller squad of regularly involved versatile players, providing incredible team spirit and ability to drop into games like Barca at home without negatively affecting performance levels, for example.

 

If would be ideal if we could bring in Coutinho on loan, or another forward of similar class. It would certainly help alleviate that bit of fear. But seriously...United, Arsenal, Chelsea, at least one of them will have a fast start and knock over a few easy fixtures, maybe even getting their noses in front of us for a bit. Means nothing over the whole season and our sights are set well beyond them and theirs just at this moment. Like Sarri’s Chelsea, or the goblin at United last year, such early runs will soon prove to be a mirage.

 

I’m fully expecting us to challenge for the title again and am relishing the continuing development of the best reds side any of us have watched in 3 decades. Talk of dropping down the league or having major struggles all season is as realistic as saying we’ll win all 7 trophies easily would be at the other end of the spectrum. 

[Anubis]

Twitterati saying we’ve offered to take him on a two year loan with Barca paying half his wages.

 

I sincerely hope Mike did actually email them that offer for shits and giggles.

[Anubis]

 

“And then Mike said to them ‘but you have to pay half of his wages!’”

[Thoth]

Jurgen Klopp hails this window as a victory for Liverpool due to a transfer first
Reds boss speaks of his happiness at retaining all of his winning squad

By Ian Doyle Liverpool reporter
22:30, 2 AUG 2019

Liverpool have been questioned in some quarters for not strengthening in the wake of their Champions League final triumph in June, with teenage duo Sepp van den Berg and Harvey Elliott the only new arrivals.

Klopp has long declared himself happy with his present squad, although there is still scope for at least one new face before Thursday's transfer deadline with a versatile left-sided player a more likely option.

And key to that has been retaining the services of leading talent such as Mohamed Salah, Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino, who all signed long-term deals within the last 18 months.

When Klopp was in charge of Borussia Dortmund, his efforts to build on the success of two Bundesliga titles, a German Cup and a Champions League final appearance were hampered by the loss of Nuri Sahin, Shinji Kagawa, Mario Gotze and Robert Lewandowski in successive seasons.

Mane will return for pre-season training following Sunday's Community Shield against Manchester City at Wembley.

And Klopp said: “For the first time in my career from next Monday I will have the team back together again, that’s true.

“These are the transfers we did, keeping the boys together, staying on our toes, staying aggressive, greedy. Let’s go again.

“Problems will come in the season but generally everything is good. We are not happy about the results (in pre-season) but these problems are sort-able.

“I don’t think too much about how happy I am that the boys are still together, we decided that a long time ago.

“The higher you get, the more difficult it is. But we have a lot of space for improvement. Football is like this. First of all we have to try to reach last season’s level again. It was a good one, that’s the first target we have.

“When, if that happens, then you can make the next steps but it’s not always.. it’s not PlayStation where you can go to the next skill or whatever.”

Liverpool finished second to City last season despite earning a club-record 97 Premier League points before claiming the sizeable consolation of being crowned European champions for a sixth time.

Klopp has been keen to move on from the Champions League final triumph, particularly after a US tour in which many of the off-field activities celebrated the event.

And of their success, the Reds boss said: “There is no extra pressure. The new situation is that it was a big achievement for the club, a big achievement for each individual. It meant a completely different summer. Everybody is talking to you about it.

“If you’re not successful, people still want pictures but don’t talk to you that long. If you win something, everybody feels the need to tell you – first of all congratulations, then where they watched it, how they watched it, how they felt, how their family felt how their friends felt, how the dog felt.

“It’s all nice but it keeps you in that moment. I want to be completely focused on a new season.

“So the boys are fine but the situation is completely different and we have to deal with the situation.

“It’s very important and we will learn it. But no-one gives you a book ‘How To Deal With a Champions League Win’. You have to do it by yourself. The boys are fine, still the sensational characters from last year.”

City are regarded favourites to win at Wembley to add to a four-trophy haul from last season having become the first club ever in England to achieve the domestic treble.

“Because they’ve won the league twice in a row, that’s one reason,” said Klopp.

“Ours was the first year on that level, we have to prove again that we can be on that level – 97 points was not a coincidence but it’s not as if we outplayed all the teams, that we shot them out of the stadium constantly.

“We had tight games. We were a real results machine last year, really impressive.

“But the champions didn’t lose a player, apart from (Vincent) Kompany, but they will be able to do something. They are pretty consistent, a good age group, experienced, they are clear favourites.

“But being a favourite has no influence on a season. Getting a good start, that’s our main thing. It’s one game.

“We will try to gain confidence but if not we will deal with it and learn from it. It’s nicer to win it than not to win it but, afterwards, we will not do a parade. Or nobody told me that.”

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jurgen-klopp-hails-window-victory-16692334

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Don't we all?

Obviously 

[Dr Nowt]