Someone's having a real laugh - sperm of gollum to Utd.

[magicrat]

1 minute ago, KMD7 said:

Some finish from Ronaldo. The cunt.

You could set your watch to him scoring at the death. The cunt

[magicrat]

28 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Stick with the Turk 

He exploded when the preening cunt scored again

[Tj hooker]

4 minutes ago, magicrat said:

He exploded when the preening cunt scored again

The Turkish Fletcher ffs 

[Harry Squatter]

42 minutes ago, magicrat said:

Fortunately I have a Turkish fella talking ten to the dozen but he talks far more sense than Macca to be very very honest,

I can remember being on holiday in Turkey whm my kids were toddlers. We went back to the room and watched In the night garden dubbed in Turkish. It still made more sense than Steve Mcmanaman

[Leyton388]

This is brilliant as he just keeps getting that bounce back result which keeps him in the job. It's always a case of 1 step forward 2 steps back with Ole and long may this continue. 

 

It's wonderful to see.

 

Ole's at the wheel. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

16 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

This is brilliant as he just keeps getting that bounce back result which keeps him in the job. It's always a case of 1 step forward 2 steps back with Ole and long may this continue. 

 

It's wonderful to see.

 

Ole's at the wheel. 

An excellent summary of the situation.

[Captain Turdseye]

If Ole gets a result against City he’s staking an early claim for November’s manager of the month award. Let’s get behind him. 

[Guest]

On 30/10/2021 at 10:19, Vincent Vega said:

This is a good opinion piece by Jonathan Liew in The Guardian.

 

Manchester United must finally dump Fergusonism and make a clean break

Club remain weirdly in thrall to a 79-year-old man who has not coached in almost a decade when a cultural reset is needed
 

It was a few months into David Moyes’s ill-fated reign at Manchester United, and with results in freefall and the dressing room in mutiny, Patrice Evra decided to go to see the only man he knew who could fix things.
 

“Boss, you have to help David,” he pleaded with Sir Alex Ferguson on a visit to his home in Cheshire.

 

Ferguson refused. “I’ve given him the biggest chance of his life,” he said. “I think it’s fair that I keep a distance and let him do his job.”

 

Perhaps the most interesting thing about this vignette – related in Evra’s recent autobiography – is its casualness. The fact Evra still referred to Ferguson as “boss”, or saw nothing remotely untoward in the fact he was going behind the back of his manager to appeal to his predecessor (and to do what, exactly?).

 

The fact Ferguson still regarded Moyes’s position as his own personal bequest. As things turned out, Moyes would not be the last United manager to learn that even when you have ascended to one of the biggest jobs in club football, you still answer to a higher power.

 

Ole Gunnar Solskjær has never made any secret of his reverence for his former manager. Pretty much from the moment he took over as caretaker he made it clear he intended to re-establish the Ferguson blueprint, piece by piece. He restored Ferguson’s beloved quiz nights. He ordered players to wear club suits before matches, as they had done in the Ferguson era. He brought Ferguson’s former assistant Mike Phelan back on to the coaching staff. He even refused to park his car in Ferguson’s old parking space at Carrington out of respect. “It just doesn’t feel right parking there,” he is reported to have told colleagues. “It’s still the gaffer’s place.”

 

And yet in recent weeks, as results have taken a downturn and his future at United has come under increasing scrutiny, Solskjær has discovered that positing oneself as the heir to Ferguson comes with pitfalls as well as benefits, particularly when the man himself is still hanging around the joint.

 

This month a video emerged of Ferguson criticising Solskjær’s decision to drop Cristiano Ronaldo for the game against Everton. “You should always start your best player,” Ferguson tells the former cage fighter Khabib Nurmagomedov. Then, during the 5-0 defeat against Liverpool last Sunday, came the face that launched a thousand memes.

 

Glowering up in the Old Trafford stands, Ferguson was unimpressed with what he was watching and seemed not to care who knew it.

 

On Tuesday, Ferguson made a rare appearance at the training ground. It is not known which parking space he used. Nevertheless, his presence itself was riotously open to interpretation: a show of support for Solskjær or an ominous sign, depending on which news website you read.

 

Within hours the club’s communications department had kicked into action, briefing friendly journalists that Ferguson’s visit was no more than a “suit fitting”.

Partly, of course, there is an element of media mischief to all this.

 

Equally, however, there is something essentially quite weird about the extent to which this global super-club still appear to be in thrall to a retired 79-year-old man who hasn’t coached a football team in almost a decade. It’s also a situation without any real precedent. Naturally Matt Busby at United and Bill Shankly at Liverpool continued to wield influence and cast a shadow on their successors long after they stepped down. But at least they weren’t having their reaction filmed every time Liverpool or United conceded a goal.

 

Officially, Ferguson is a club ambassador and a much-loved legend. Unofficially, he appears to be a sort of manager emeritus: his counsel keenly sought, his blessing greatly valued, his every utterance consecrated as if it were the word of the divine. This is a veneration that goes beyond simply celebrating and respecting the achievements of your greatest manager. Underpinning the enduring cult of Ferguson is the essentialist idea that his greatness can be bestowed by his presence alone. That the attributes and traits that made him such a brilliant coach can somehow be transmitted without him giving a single team talk or picking a single squad.

 

For a club struggling to match up their past with their future, desperate for short-term success and tiring of long-term promises, Fergusonism has an easy appeal. The logic goes something like this: Ferguson was the best coach, and United were the best team, and so all you have to do is crack the code to the Ferguson genome (or “United DNA”, as Solskjær so touchingly terms it), and world domination will inevitably follow.

 

In a way, each of United’s past four managerial appointments has been an attempt to reanimate Ferguson in a different bodily form. Solskjær was an effort to recreate the spirit and attacking ethos of the Ferguson era; José Mourinho the pragmatism and laser-focus on trophies; Louis van Gaal the schoolmasterly arrogance and magnetic personality; Moyes the Scottish work ethic. The result: three trophies in eight years. A possible conclusion: that your one-off genius was, in fact, a one-off genius.

 

And yet for many supporters, and even members of the club hierarchy, Fergusonism remains an article of faith, a reference point, United’s Rosetta stone, unquestioned and unquestionable. Naturally it is an impression the man himself has done little to deter, building his leadership brand to the tune of two books, an acclaimed documentary film and a teaching post at Harvard. Meanwhile, former United players in the media – many of whom knew little else but Ferguson – espouse his teachings as if they were universal truths, rather than a particular approach to a particular situation at a particular time.

Fergusonism is why United should always play with wingers. Fergusonism is why the ultimate responsibility always lies with the players. Fergusonism is why all managers deserve time, however bad things get. But what if everyone’s been doing it wrong? What if the real lesson of the Ferguson era was that in order to drive real change you need an apostate, a young visionary prepared to sweep everything away and build a club along new principles, from the academy upwards?

 

By now, we have probably all come to our own conclusion about whether Solskjær can be that man. In the meantime, it is probably worth reflecting on just what this drifting club need right now.

 

Never have United felt more in need of a clean break, a fresh start, a cultural reset, a new idea. Instead, they remain beguiled by the idea of reanimating the past: by the one magic switch that will flick everything back to the way it once was.

Keep Fergus on around as long as possible. 

[Scott_M]

When Ferguson eventually dies, they’ll keep bringing him to games at Old Trafford in an infosphere jar.

 

[Scott_M]

I was reading a funny article on the mancs earlier. They’ve boxed themselves into a hilarious paradox.
 

They surely know Solakjaer isn’t good enough to challenge for top honours.

 

But any bad spell will never last too long because they have good players.

 

They’ll just continue to tread water. 

 

[JustTosh]

On 30/09/2021 at 10:29, A_S said:

Like a battered woman receiving flowers and apologies (again) from her abusive bloke, they REALLY want to believe, even against their better judgement, that it'll come good soon. Just a little longer and it'll all change! Deep down they know better, but they refuse to admit it to themselves. 

So, she got battered, the abusive bloke asked for forgiveness. Now it looks promising, maybe just maybe he'll come good?

 

Sweetheart, it won't be long before he's om the boozer again.

 

[Daisy]

Why are all the recent threads continually  about other teams.

 

Newcastle

Man United

Spurs

Everton

 

Fuck off

[Stickman]

Great thing is if they had lost Saturday they'd have probably gone and got Conte...As said on this thread he just keeps getting a result when he needs one that keeps the wolves at bay

[joe_fishfish]

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

Why are all the recent threads continually  about other teams.

 

Newcastle

Man United

Spurs

Everton

 

Fuck off

We'll make top four easily but we're conceding too many and dropping too many stupid points to challenge for the title. Pretty boring really.

 

So let's have a laugh at everything else going in the league, there's enough to go round.

[m0e]

13 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why are all the recent threads continually  about other teams.

 

Newcastle

Man United

Spurs

Everton

 

Fuck off

It's almost as bad as making every thread about another team's player.

 

Almost.

[tokyojoe]

2 hours ago, Scott_M said:

When Ferguson eventually dies, they’ll keep bringing him to games at Old Trafford in an infosphere jar.

 

 

[Scott_M]

2 minutes ago, m0e said:

It's almost as bad as making every thread about another team's player.

 

Almost.

Or other teams finances. 

[Scott_M]

16 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Great thing is if they had lost Saturday they'd have probably gone and got Conte...As said on this thread he just keeps getting a result when he needs one that keeps the wolves at bay

Wouldn’t surprise me if they got a result on Saturday. 
 

The only time they’ve had a good run of form is playing on the counter and they’ll do the same on Saturday. They’ve got form for beating City that way. They’ll want to wrong the result of our game and make it up to their “fans”.
 

It also wouldn’t surprise me if City humiliated them the way we did. 

[Captain Turdseye]

56 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Why are all the recent threads continually  about other teams.

 

Newcastle

Man United

Spurs

Everton

 

Fuck off

It’s a football forum. People want to talk about football. 
 

The alternative is to do what other teams forums do and have a ‘Liverpool Forum’ and a ‘Other Football Forum’ in separate spaces. 
 

In my opinion, the way we have it on here is loads better.  

[TheHowieLama]

There is never any talk about other teams owners. That is the important stuff.

 

We keep getting outowned.

[Lario]

1 hour ago, joe_fishfish said:

We'll make top four easily but we're conceding too many and dropping too many stupid points to challenge for the title. Pretty boring really.

 

So let's have a laugh at everything else going in the league, there's enough to go round.

We're second in the league.

Only 3 points off top.

Top scorers in the league.

Second best goal difference.

Third best defence.

And you think we're not going to challenge for the title? Fuck me.

 

I hope we're this shit every year!

[El Rojo]

Them beating Man City at the weekend would be a great result for us in a few different ways. 

 

Go on Ole, show them what you're made of. 

[manwiththestick]

40 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

Them beating Man City at the weekend would be a great result for us in a few different ways. 

 

Go on Ole, show them what you're made of. 

I'll take a draw, don't want them to get too cocky, knowing their luck with wind in their sails the big players might starting to pull them higher, they have Chelsea in a few weeks, I'd rather they win that one.

[Leyton388]

Got to love Ole comparing United and Ronaldo to Michael Jordan and the Bulls last night when he was asked if its a worry that Ronaldo keeps bailing them out. 

 

They are every way the same if you don't include the titles and winning teams the bulls have. 

 

 

[Anubis]

Brown Jenkin is where it’s at, apparently.