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2 hours ago, whtwht said:

For all the utd lurkers.No excuses for you lot. Your manager has been backed. You need to be winning leagues with that squad or its failure.


This. They’ve been spending very big money for a number of years. Nothing wrong with the players they brought in, but they’re not capable of getting the maximum out of them.

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8 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

James wasn't a regular starter. And they've just bought Sancho for "his" position. 

 

Fred may be garbage. But he's favoured over Fabinho for his national side. 

 

McTominay may also be garbage. But United have just bought a serious centre back to make sure two donkeys aren't required in midfield to cover for Mongo Maguire. 


Sancho is obviously a significant upgrade on James but will he have as many goal contributions as Salah? 
 

Although Fred does start for Brazil, that’s an irrelevance really. In the 3 seasons they’ve both been in England, I don’t think anybody would say Fred is the better player. 
 

McTominnay isn’t top quality. 
 

Varane is an obvious improvement on Lindelof. 
 

IMO, the only area of the pitch the have more options than us is reserve keeper and up front. 
 

Rashford, Martial, Cavani, Sancho & Greenwood are all good players. If I’m being picky, I’d say Rashford and Martial (certainly Martial) have never proven themselves as top, top quality - both are inconsistent. 
 

If we add another attacker to our squad before September, I don’t think they’ll be better in that area either. 
 

This was their bench for the EL Final - 

 

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I still think our First 11 > their first 11 and our squad > their squad. 
 

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8 hours ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:


This. They’ve been spending very big money for a number of years. Nothing wrong with the players they brought in, but they’re not capable of getting the maximum out of them.


Agreed. Their current squad has 3 of the 5 most expensive English transfers ever (Lukaku and VVD are the other two).

 

Fernandes, Fred, Martial, Wan Bissaka were all >£50m.

 

Even Lindelof, Matic, Bailly, Van De Beek  & Mata were >£30m. 
 

But no, the Glazers just steal money out the club. 

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Solksjaer isn't winning the league no matter who he signs, give him City's or our squad and he still wouldn’t. Give him a choice between the 2 squads and he probably still fucks it up.

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Alarm bells not sounding just yet, but Solksjaer’s free hit days aren’t going to last forever. If he doesn’t start winning trophies he‘ll be replaced in the next 12-18 months or so, and the right manager has a decent base to push on from now. 

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Combined XI

Alisson; Trent, Varane, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson, Thiago, Fernandes; Salah, Mane

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2 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Combined XI

Alisson; Trent, Varane, Van Dijk, Robertson; Fabinho, Henderson, Thiago, Fernandes; Salah, Mane

That's not far off. But last season's version of Mane wouldn't make any selection. Let's hope last season was an aberration. 

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The cunts never seem to run out of money and despite the Glazers taking loads out it never affects them and they never have any pressure on them from banks etc. They will never be run on a budget like us. If we hire a new tea lady it impacts on transfer funds. 

 

Sooner or later they will start winning again unless they hire another complete fuckwit once Rice Krispie head gets put on the bonfire. 

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Varane's got a mistake in him, but he's better than Gomez for sure.

 

I mean hopefully he's left it too long to move to the Premier League and he's not quite up to it physically, but I don't see it myself.

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8 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Sooner or later they will start winning again unless they hire another complete fuckwit once Rice Krispie head gets put on the bonfire. 

This precisely.

United are the epitome of throw enough money at a problem and eventually you’ll get it right.

Solskaer has been given more than enough time compared to Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho, even though the latter two upset too many people there probably, so I’d contend he’s an acceptable face rather than a competent coach, and it’s likely he’s getting support behind the scenes.

Ultimately they’ll start winning again though, while we sit back and allow a squad to get older still believing in money ball.

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5 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

Gomez over Varane is mental! 

Based on what exactly?

 

We won the league with a near perfect record with Gomez at CB. What would Varane have done for us? Prevented the 3 nil v Watford?!

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Will be interesting to see how Varane fares for them. Potentially an excellent signing but he's won everything at club level and internationally so this is a bit of a step down for him. 

 

All being well this season, it's not an area of the pitch we'll be jealous of any other sides over. 

 

£50m for Ben White is bizarre stuff for Arsenal. Surely there was a better option for less money on the continent.  It's still a relatively cheap position to fill properly, compared to attacking players. 

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12 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

£50m for Ben White is bizarre stuff for Arsenal. Surely there was a better option for less money on the continent.  It's still a relatively cheap position to fill properly, compared to attacking players. 

Think they're doing it to up their English quota.

 

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On 29/07/2021 at 08:37, Dr Nowt said:

Alarm bells not sounding just yet, but Solksjaer’s free hit days aren’t going to last forever. If he doesn’t start winning trophies he‘ll be replaced in the next 12-18 months or so, and the right manager has a decent base to push on from now. 

If he keeps qualifying for the champions league he'll be alright I'd say. The fans wont be happy but the owners will be once they've got champions league football coming in. 

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Rashford out until October with surgery required for some long-standing shoulder problem.  The fact he prioritized the euros and his holidays higher than surgery is bound to go down well.

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5 hours ago, m0e said:

Based on what exactly?

 

We won the league with a near perfect record with Gomez at CB. What would Varane have done for us? Prevented the 3 nil v Watford?!

Based on being the major component in France's World Cup winning defence, for starters... 

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3 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

Based on being the major component in France's World Cup winning defence, for starters... 

Good point.

 

Let's get the whole France team in, while we're at it. Maybe they'll win us everything like our current team did.

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