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10 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

This. 

You should make your missus apply for it Jim.  It's like a woman not voting and then being given the speech about the suffragettes.  

We have a benefits system because we, as a country, want one.  We demanded that the government, years ago, set-up a system using our taxes to help those who were dealt a bad hand or are going through a bad period.  The Tories, and their acolytes, had NO RIGHT to ever cast aspersions over people accessing this funding.  It's so fucking wrong to hear about people like your missus who have been brow-beaten into feeling ashamed of their condition. She, and everyone else in the same position, need to swallow their pride and use it.  Please use it.  Don't give in to these Tory bastards.  There is no principled bone in their body, they want that benefits money re-routed into their pensions or tax breaks.   

Spot on.

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7 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

It actually feels like the Tories and their lackeys in the press are beyond demonising those claiming benefits. There now seems to be a concerted effort to stigmatise those who have a low paid/low skilled job - with rhetoric along the lines of "working but still skint or struggling to afford the basic necessities? Tough. Get a better job, you fucking failure."

Let's see how far that gets them. 

 

If everyone gets a better job...then who does the shit jobs? Because you removed that layer of worker didn't you? So, who then? 

Well, let's see.  My guess is 16-21 year olds.  

 

Frankly, I'm disgusted and embarrassed to be British right now.  Not just at the Tory Party attitudes, but at half the people I see in any street who are too intellectually frail to see this is a scam and they are both the customer and the salesman.   They get their morning briefing from the newspapers, which they pay money to receive, and off to work they go, spreading the gospel of the Church of Tory.  

 

Chumps. Cucks. Sheep. Slaves. Cannon-fodder. 

 

Socialism is human nature.  Some humans have been tricked into thinking they are Tory, but they're not.  Just because you're angry at benefit cheats doesn't make you a Tory.  Just because you hate foreign criminals doesn't make you a Tory. Just because you support the military doesn't make you a Tory. 

 

The lack of affordable homes is a massive problem in this country.  Not just on the level of the obvious benefits of home ownership but also on the well-being and stability of being a homeowner, and the enhanced feeling of community responsibility it should engender.  That's a key thing that's missing.  And that suits current homeowners with the exorbitant house prices kept in this fake stasis to make them all feel safe and affluent.  

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12 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

People need to get over their feelings of shame and just apply for it. PIP has nothing to do with a work ethic, the whole point of replacing DLA with PIP was that it's supposed to support a person in their daily life, including their work life, so they are able to partake in society like everyone else. My missus only applied for it because me and her mum nagged her for ages, and even now she hates to admit she has a disability. There are piss-taking freeloading scumbags out there, but by and large they're not the disabled.

Spot on this. My mum when she got told she had 6 months if she was lucky after being diagnosed with cancer, wouldn't take anything she was owed.  Taxpayer all her life but didn't want to know. Too proud to seek help, ended up stuck with a shite macmillan nurse (short straw, Macmillan by and large do an amazing job) who visited her once and used to just call the house phone during the day when my mums husband was at work and ask if she was ok "yeah fine" "ok lets reduce your steroids..." that kind of carry on.

 

Taxpayers (and any human being) deserve the support there. Its why we pay a quarter or more of our wages to NI, Tax etc. As you say, some people are just to proud or simply just don't know what they're entitled too. 

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13 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Spot on this. My mum when she got told she had 6 months if she was lucky after being diagnosed with cancer, wouldn't take anything she was owed.  Taxpayer all her life but didn't want to know. Too proud to seek help, ended up stuck with a shite macmillan nurse (short straw, Macmillan by and large do an amazing job) who visited her once and used to just call the house phone during the day when my mums husband was at work and ask if she was ok "yeah fine" "ok lets reduce your steroids..." that kind of carry on.

 

Taxpayers (and any human being) deserve the support there. Its why we pay a quarter or more of our wages to NI, Tax etc. As you say, some people are just to proud or simply just don't know what they're entitled too. 

Agreed.

That was an excellent post by Stronts. 

 

My Dad had a similar experience with Macmillan. The nurse they sent was leaving at the end of the month and she was just going through the motions.

 

She very briefly mentioned the DS1500 form and it was only when my Mum asked what that was and I told her, that the Macmillan Nurse went into more detail, but in a manner which looked like she couldn't be arsed.

The District Nurses were absolutely fantastic though.

 

He was the same, worked all his life and never took a penny. It was only when he realised the extra financial pressure of his situation that he reluctantly agreed to claim. 

He died shortly after.

 

The welfare state is there for all.

That and the NHS are the two things that this country can and should be most proud of and there is no shame in using either should people find themselves in the unfortunate position of needing them.

None.

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6 minutes ago, Harry's Lad said:

Agreed.

That was an excellent post by Stronts. 

 

My Dad had a similar experience with Macmillan. The nurse they sent was leaving at the end of the month and she was just going through the motions.

 

She very briefly mentioned the DS1500 form and it was only when my Mum asked what that was and I told her, that the Macmillan Nurse went into more detail, but in a manner which looked like she couldn't be arsed.

The District Nurses were absolutely fantastic though.

 

He was the same, worked all his life and never took a penny. It was only when he realised the extra financial pressure of his situation that he reluctantly agreed to claim. 

He died shortly after.

 

The welfare state is there for all.

That and the NHS are the two things that this country can and should be most proud of and there is no shame in using either should people find themselves in the unfortunate position of needing them.

None.

Yeah same with my mum. Superb. 

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On 06/10/2021 at 22:07, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

People need to get over their feelings of shame and just apply for it. PIP has nothing to do with a work ethic, the whole point of replacing DLA with PIP was that it's supposed to support a person in their daily life, including their work life, so they are able to partake in society like everyone else. My missus only applied for it because me and her mum nagged her for ages, and even now she hates to admit she has a disability. There are piss-taking freeloading scumbags out there, but by and large they're not the disabled.

 

Spot on that, I loathe the saying 'handouts'. 

 

It's not a handout, it's savings that I and others have banked should we ever need it. I willingly pay it so if anyone else needs it, they get it too.

 

I'll tell you what's a fucking handout - PPE contracts to Tory politician's neighbours. 

 

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On 06/10/2021 at 22:34, Arniepie said:

There are probally loads of examples. 

I.think there was someone in Manchester who froze to.death after having their benefits cut.

They have created an environment where if you claim benefits you are a scrounger.

You watch.

Putting relatives into care will be the next one.


This exact thing happened to my cousin’s bird in Runcorn a few years ago. Had to keep the heating off while the kids were in school. Fell asleep in a freezing cold house and never woke up. 
 

 

As for slimjim’s PIP stuff, when I got diagnosed with MS I was in the middle of a full blown relapse. The entire left side of my body from the waist up was useless. I wasn’t even able to touch my nose with my left hand, dress myself, wash properly or do a simple thing like making a sandwich. 
 

The PIP medical declared me fit for work with all that going on and on the day I was there my balance was so off that my bird was at times having to hold on to me to ensure I could stand up straight. Bjornebye would have put me in a phone box. 
 

The result of that medical was my bird having to go back to work and leave me with one arm trying to look after my seven/eight month old daughter between 8am and 4pm. I couldn’t even put my own socks on, let alone change a nappy or carry her around. 

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1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:


This exact thing happened to my cousin’s bird in Runcorn a few years ago. Had to keep the heating off while the kids were in school. Fell asleep in a freezing cold house and never woke up. 
 

 

As for slimjim’s PIP stuff, when I got diagnosed with MS I was in the middle of a full blown relapse. The entire left side of my body from the waist up was useless. I wasn’t even able to touch my nose with my left hand, dress myself, wash properly or do a simple thing like making a sandwich. 
 

The PIP medical declared me fit for work with all that going on and on the day I was there my balance was so off that my bird was at times having to hold on to me to ensure I could stand up straight. Bjornebye would have put me in a phone box. 
 

The result of that medical was my bird having to go back to work and leave me with one arm trying to look after my seven/eight month old daughter between 8am and 4pm. I couldn’t even put my own socks on, let alone change a nappy or carry her around. 

That doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

When I had my original medical, the Dr came round to the house.

 

I had been diagnosed with relapsing/remitting bordering on secondary progressive MS and had been having a real flurry of relapses and had been off work sick for about 15 months.

 

I had the dreaded MS hug, where you feel as if your ribcage is being squeezed making it harder to breathe.

My right leg was virtually useless.

I had hyperextension in both knees, but mainly in my right.

Both feet felt like they were in a vice and were being crushed in all directions.

Three fingers of my right hand felt as if they had been jammed in a door, something that has been there for the near 23 years since diagnosis.

There was a woolly sensation in my arms hands and legs, and even sat down I felt I was about to topple over because it felt as if my left buttock wasn't there as it was completely numb, and there was also nerve pain.

My balance was also affected.

 

I was basically fucked.

 

The Dr reported back to the Benefits Agency as it was then saying I too was fit for work.

I immediately appealed and put a request in for a copy of the Dr's report.

 

While I was waiting for this, I had an appointment with my Consultant who told me I would never work again. This was 2 months before I turned 36. 

I never went back to work and was forced to retire 9 months later.

 

When I received the Dr's report it made interesting reading.

 

The Dr, if you could call him that had written what could only be described as a work of fiction.

 

A dog was barking in the garden. Exercise? Who?

House nicely decorated. Who?

Patient a pleasant fellow.  

I see no reason why this man would not be able to comfortably walk 200 metres or more, to name a few examples.

 

The appeal was successful, but it was only a 2 year award, so I had to go through the whole rigmarole again, when I was given an open ended (life) award.

 

It was a good, secure job I had that paid bloody good money. I had 2 teenage kids, a mortgage, decent car, life was good, and then bang, which is why I saw my arse with SlimJims post.

 

Anyway, that's me.

 

I remember you posting about your  diagnosis when I was lurking years back and I hope you're as well as you can be.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Harry's Lad said:

That doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

When I had my original medical, the Dr came round to the house.

 

I had been diagnosed with relapsing/remitting bordering on secondary progressive MS and had been having a real flurry of relapses and had been off work sick for about 15 months.

 

I had the dreaded MS hug, where you feel as if your ribcage is being squeezed making it harder to breathe.

My right leg was virtually useless.

I had hyperextension in both knees, but mainly in my right.

Both feet felt like they were in a vice and were being crushed in all directions.

Three fingers of my right hand felt as if they had been jammed in a door, something that has been there for the near 23 years since diagnosis.

There was a woolly sensation in my arms hands and legs, and even sat down I felt I was about to topple over because it felt as if my left buttock wasn't there as it was completely numb, and there was also nerve pain.

My balance was also affected.

 

I was basically fucked.

 

The Dr reported back to the Benefits Agency as it was then saying I too was fit for work.

I immediately appealed and put a request in for a copy of the Dr's report.

 

While I was waiting for this, I had an appointment with my Consultant who told me I would never work again. This was 2 months before I turned 36. 

I never went back to work and was forced to retire 9 months later.

 

When I received the Dr's report it made interesting reading.

 

The Dr, if you could call him that had written what could only be described as a work of fiction.

 

A dog was barking in the garden. Exercise? Who?

House nicely decorated. Who?

Patient a pleasant fellow.  

I see no reason why this man would not be able to comfortably walk 200 metres or more, to name a few examples.

 

The appeal was successful, but it was only a 2 year award, so I had to go through the whole rigmarole again, when I was given an open ended (life) award.

 

It was a good, secure job I had that paid bloody good money. I had 2 teenage kids, a mortgage, decent car, life was good, and then bang, which is why I saw my arse with SlimJims post.

 

Anyway, that's me.

 

I remember you posting about your  diagnosis when I was lurking years back and I hope you're as well as you can be.

 

 

 


Cheers, mate. I’m OK. Only dealing with the fatigue, some issues swallowing heavy/stodgy food and a bit of tingling discomfort which I can manage totally for the most part. It’s been seven or eight years since the first relapse, and six since diagnosis, but I’m learning all the time about what is and isn’t good for me. I’m not at the SPMS stage yet but I read your posts and sense that you’re coping well with it mentally, which helps me to think I’d take it similarly if and when it happens. Consider yourself a bit of an inspiration. 
 

Those physical symptoms you talk about, the numbness and stuff, I remember well. Hard to explain but you’ve done a pretty good job of it there. Just this morning I woke up with it in my fingertips and spent the first few hours of the day waiting and praying that it didn’t start creeping further and further up my arm and turn into a bad relapse. God help me it’s my right arm next because I wouldn’t be able to do important stuff like posting on here, using the telly remote, knocking one out and wiping my own arse! It’s just dissipated in the last hour or so, so I can breathe easy and keep my plans for the weekend. I often wonder if that’s what the Tecfidera does. I know it reduces relapses but there’s been a few occasions where it’s felt like the beginning of my first two, but then it’s disappeared just as quickly as it started. I’m guessing they’ll be new lesions but the meds have shut it down without me having to go through the full relapse. 

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It can be worrying when new or strange sensations start happening.

I've got lesions all over my brain and one very large one on my spinal cord at the base of my skull and going about 3 inches down my neck, so I know exactly what you mean.

 

With hindsight, I can trace symptoms back to when I was about 16.

I'd have a kick around and be dragging my leg for a bit. I just thought I'd tweaked something and so on. It was only when I was 33 that it really started to manifest itself.

I'd come home from work wiped out. I remember saying to my Mrs, I shouldn't be this tired. Then other symptoms. 

 

I knew someone who had spinal cancer and I was convinced I had it because the symptoms were very similar. 

 

It took two years to get a diagnosis, and only then because I had no choice but to betray my principles and paid for a private consultation 

 

I find the best way to deal with it is what a very good friend of mine did who is sadly no longer with us, and that is to not worry and stick two fingers up to it, as there is no point, it just makes you feel like shit.

 

I just live my life as best I can. I can still walk around the house ok, though I now have a stairlift, still drive ok (or I will do when the DVLA cunts get their arses into gear) with the aid of hand controls, I'm ok.

 

Just don't let it beat your mind and you'll be  sound.

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Finally home from work after being followed home by drunks, smack heads and people in wheelchairs and on crutches berating me. Work shy bastard's.... Only joking.

Can I just say reading through all the comments my heart goes out to you all and I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone of you especially Harry's lad.

I was tainted with the memories of my mum going through multiple operations to fix her shoulder so she could continue in the nursing home while her next door in my own eyes got away with it.

Lisa my wife has now filled in online a PIP as her comment to me was ' if the mighty forum thinks I'm ok to do it then so be it'.

YNWA to all the fellow reds and even the blues' who are suffering from these horrible health issues and I wish you the best of luck.

 

PS.

If anyone wants any heroin, cheap beer or a second hand walking stick then I'm your man.

 

Peace

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5 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

The result of that medical was my bird having to go back to work and leave me with one arm trying to look after my seven/eight month old daughter between 8am and 4pm. I couldn’t even put my own socks on, let alone change a nappy or carry her around.


Got my dates mixed up here. Not that it matters but Turdsette was a bit older when this happened. She was just turned two I think. 

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3 minutes ago, slimjim75 said:

Finally home from work after being followed home by drunks, smack heads and people in wheelchairs and on crutches berating me. Work shy bastard's.... Only joking.

Can I just say reading through all the comments my heart goes out to you all and I'm truly sorry if I offended anyone of you especially Harry's lad.

I was tainted with the memories of my mum going through multiple operations to fix her shoulder so she could continue in the nursing home while her next door in my own eyes got away with it.

Lisa my wife has now filled in online a PIP as her comment to me was ' if the mighty forum thinks I'm ok to do it then so be it'.

YNWA to all the fellow reds and even the blues' who are suffering from these horrible health issues and I wish you the best of luck.

 

PS.

If anyone wants any heroin, cheap beer or a second hand walking stick then I'm your man.

 

Peace

Mrs HL's sister knows all about what your mum went through with her shoulder.

Her eldest had Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy and she had to lug him around until he died aged 27 when she then got a job in a care home doing basically the same thing.

Most, like her son were like a dead weight which makes them seem heavier, so her shoulder and neck are fucked.

 

I'm glad your Mrs has decided to and fill out a PIP claim form. It sounds like she's both entitled and deserving of it. Good luck to her.

 

As for everything else, I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Peace brother.

 

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10 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


Got my dates mixed up here. Not that it matters but Turdsette was a bit older when this happened. She was just turned two I think. 

Me too.

My lad was 13 and my daughter 11. 

36 and 34 now respectively.

That's more frightening than anything !

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